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To: stanne

OK I’ll try (just) one last time.

After this, we’ll just have to remained puzzled I suppose.

I actually support Obama’s proposed medicare position, for the most part. The current plan is for me, basically the fall-back plan as well. Almost no difference. However the rate at which we continue to offshore American jobs, makes me ever more supportive of an overall American coverage just to be on the safe side.

That said, I am so enthusiastic about all Cruz’ other positions, that I am perfectly willing to be against what (just to me) seems to be improvements in medicine and possibly even see them not enacted, because I am that supportive of Cruz, and the positions of other FReepers.

I recognize I am in a minority. I accept that, and am even willing to vote against my own position in this one issue.

I hope this explains.

(because that’s the last attempt)

:D


47 posted on 09/21/2013 8:52:25 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Ted Cruz is a radical American in the style of founding Americans.

He too will be victorious. First he has to walk thru a Hell Fire of people who want to hand their freedoms over so they can worship a king. We have been here before.

Same story, different day.


48 posted on 09/21/2013 8:55:50 AM PDT by Truth2012
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Someone needs to know where a particular person is. And you tell them.

You say, “she went to get the mail”. Subject, verb, a little prep. phrase in there, and there’s peace. No ambiguity. We can even judge when she’ll be back and what frame of mind she might be in at that time.

There are no parentheses, no ambiguous words like “costs” in such a position that the reader doesn’t know whether it is functioning, in this sentence, as a verb or a noun. And they give up.

While in college, I used to watch ‘Firing Line’, with Wm. Buckley. His authentic assertions were engaging, and I would read his essays. I realized his sentences could be the length of a normal paragraph, but I could follow his thoughts easily, as his sentences always had clear structure, following a complete thought.

And sometime in the 1980s I picked up ‘Newsweek’. I read an article about half way through, and discarded it. I think I never read an article published in that magazine since then. It was so full of big words used simply to obfuscate and sway opinion I couldn’t take it.

I digress.

I think what you are saying is you enjoy the ‘free’ medical care, or the promise of future safety, but you follow everything else that is against that.

But it’s difficult to put into words, because it’s difficult to admit you want that safety net.

I don’t know.

But I am interested because as our health care system goes through a necessary revolution, a lot of people will not like Ted Cruz as you do. And I think a lot will be forced to like him beyond what they’re used to because they’ll sense that he loves this country and he’s working for the people in his charge by being ultimately informed.

And the accusations of, ‘mean spirited’, ‘not Hollywood looking enough’ will move in, as they already have.

Whether it’s Ted Cruz or someone else way in the future, if our country is going to get back on track, people are going to have to stop expecting ‘free’ govt stuff.

It is not free, it never was, and it’s why we got into this mess.

Third party payer came in mid century, then Medicare came in. Many conservatives were against it, if not all, I imagine, for the very reasons it failed. It was abused widely, but it was likely doomed anyway. It is bankrupt or close to it or headed in that direction.

For anyone to say they like it and want to build on it is the kind of short sightedness that puts us into a mess.

This is not a country of earners taking care of the non earners. It’s being tried, but, in the end, the non earners will have less than nothing when the money finally ends up all in the hands of the ones running this Ponzi scheme - the higher echelons of government - who are all busy pointing at Wall Streeters and others.

BO care is a scheme which takes money from the middle class and shunts it to non earners.

With 23 million on food stamps (yes, the highest level ever), why would anyone continue working to have their earnings taken from them? What will happen when everyone just stops working?

Even if, as you say, medicare increases under BO Care, how does it make sense? It is bankrupt. Not form abuse, but by design.

Our medical system is not improving, that is a dream. No one wants to get into medicine. There are no studies and great research being done.

As it is, machinery and equipment will start fading out, there will be much less time spent with doctors and even nurses.

THe turn this is going to take is back to what it was before 3rd party came in promising the moon and medicare came in driving business and prices up, and not paying, self care.

That is what Is going to drive people to hatred. They’re going to have to take care of themselves and their families. They’re going to have to learn how to cook and manage and treat and diagnose. THey will not be able to get obese and go in and demand that the doctor take care of the complications.

People know it, so they want BO to stave it off with empty promises and theft.

But it’s coming.


57 posted on 09/21/2013 9:55:51 AM PDT by stanne
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