[Wurlitzer]

“I believe employers also quietly lobbied for this so they can ease out of providing health care.”

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Employer provided HC was simply a dodge/scam to get around wage controls and just like useless welfare queens, the American public became hooked on the ridiculous concept that your employer owes you something other than a paycheck for your services.

If the misplaced logic of employer provided HC were taken to its logical conclusion then:

1) Employers would have to provide FOOD as everyone needs food more than Health Care.

2) Employers would have to provide a car or transportation to work as you can’t work if you can’t get there (home based employment excluded of course)

3) Employers must provide clothing as you cannot show up to work naked (unless you are a poll dancer)

4) Employers must provide housing as everyone needs a place to stay.

Why not demand they tuck you into bed at night and kiss your forehead and tell you a bed time story about how the workers of the world united to take over all business and let government run everything?

What a thought, people too dumb or to chicken to risk their money to start a business being allowed a say in how business is run. Oh, we have that already and it is called a union.

[old and tired]

Thanks for posting. I agree with you. I wanted to write something similar but I don’t have the time or patience for all the replies.

[John S Mosby]

Very well put..”misplaced logic” that employers should be providing anything other than PAY for work done. The separation of personal responsibility and creation of the dependency meme and culture of all stripes, govt. and private.

[chuckles]

Everything you say is true, BUT, my employer took money from my pay to purchase benefits of many kinds for my benefit. If they decide to ditch the agreed to contract, do I get a raise? Probably not. At least not enough to pay for what I had. I'm not interested in receiving Medicaid style health care with my education and skills. It's really about the disruption, not so much about the reality.

I think eventually, people will refuse to work for less money in the same jobs and demand more money or move on to a better payer. That may take years and people will literally die in the mean time. I worked for $25 an hour 12 years ago while my brother in law was making $38 and hour with less skills and education. He paid his own bennies. The reason I was happy was the killer benefits I got made it worthwhile. I had a bigger house, a better car, and went on more vacations than he did for most of our careers. Now, I may have my bennies removed after counting on them for decades. Kinda leaves me in a lurch in retirement. If a corporation chooses to pay the fine and drop coverage, they will find their better employees suddenly looking for more money in a different place. The marketplace will eventually level the field, but their will be pain in the short term.

I wouldn't have a problem losing my health care from work if they paid me the difference to shop for my own. You and I know that's not coming. I have very little doubt I will end up broke and under a bridge after working and saving for 40 years. This is the difference between living middle class and living in the projects for most people. If you worked and saved in order to get a million dollar IRA for retirement and now find out you needed a couple of thousand more per month income to keep you out of a cardboard box, it becomes more than an intellectual discussion on a blog about paying your own way. After working for 30 years towards something and then to find out the government says, "No you can't!" is kinda worrisome.

[tcrlaf]

“1) Employers would have to provide FOOD as everyone needs food more than Health Care.

2) Employers would have to provide a car or transportation to work as you can’t work if you can’t get there”

Many companies used to do EXACTLY that.
They were called “Company Towns”. And folks that couldn’t manage their money soon ended up “Owing their soul to the Company Store”-Tennessee Ernie Ford

A return to the “Script System” would soon the Radical Socialist Democrat goal of total life control, eh?

[LearnsFromMistakes]

Employers must provide clothing as you cannot show up to work naked (unless you are a poll dancer)

I usually try to gloss over typos and such, but with this proposal, I think we get really 'get out the vote'...