Posted on 09/17/2013 8:57:26 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
I pinged you to this thread earlier because I knew there had to be a troll zot. Jim did it. Could I have a burning zot, please? Thank you,
Marcella
Notice how liberals subliminally delegitimize conservative concerns by using phrases like "egg on" to describe them?
Do liberal groups ever "egg on" anyone?
-PJ
He or she did seem to have a wee bit of a personal problem against our fine Senator, didn’t he?
Ted Cruz Is Making Life Miserable For House Republicans
BRAVO... press on Ted!!!
He/she/it completely blew his/her/its credibility when he/she/it said he/she/it didn't have enough information on Cruz to make a judgment. What the hell was he/she/it doing to dump on Cruz when he/she/it admitted he/she/it didn't have info. about Cruz? Nuts.
And I have a suspicion that Derbyshire is a Freeper.
If so, and if he's the Freeper who I think he is, Derbyshire knows that politics requires getting to a majority of 50 percent plus one. That means when people agree with us on most but not all issues, though maybe not on the underlying rationale to get there, working with them where possible makes more sense than fighting on the points where we disagree.
I have some pretty strong disagreements with Derbyshire on some issues involving race and religion which are very, very important to me. Interestingly, however, both he and I have interracial marriages to Asians, and it is simplistic to dismiss Derbyshire, as National Review did, as a racial bigot.
If I had the opportunity, I'd love to sit down and talk with Derbyshire about how neither the “Church of England” establishment, nor American pre-1960s mainstream cultural Christianity, nor the classic Chinese blend of Buddhism and Confucianism can provide an adequate moral foundation for society. At most, they provide a cultural religion for the masses which can be swept away in an instant by highly committed ideologues, whether Maoists in the case of China or secular socialists in the case of Britain.
Religions and major political movements are founded by people who are absolutely convinced they are right and are willing to die for what they believe. Cultural mainline Christianity doesn't fit that description. Derbyshire needs to understand that nothing short of the Judeo-Christian principles on which America and most of the rest of Western civilization was founded can stand up to the fire of Islam, Communism, or Nazism. When confronting people who are absolutely certain they are right and are willing to die for what they believe, cultures with uncertain commitments do not prevail.
There's a time for disagreement, and obviously Derbyshire and I will disagree fundamentally on the role of religion in Western civilization.
But when people like Derbyshire are pro-gun, anti-racial quotas, anti-Muslim immigration at home, pro-Israel, anti-Muslim Brotherhood, anti-crime, and anti-welfare state, I'd like to work with them on those issues, even if they get to those positions by a different route from me.
Again, we don't get to govern if we don't get to 50 percent so our candidate wins.
/johnny
Go, TED, RUN LIKE HELL! Make ‘em all sweat!
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The "Adam and Eve" of the Free Republican Party
Another old time FReeper bites the 240,000 volt bolt. Thanks for the troll outing Marcella.
This coming from the “R” labeled liberals who believe that completely caving to Obama like a drooling masochistic BDSM slave is the way to go.
Those House GOPe scalawags deserve the grief
>>I can assure you that Sen. Cruz does not play as well to the general public as he does to you.<<
I’m not saying that Senator Cruz is another Ronald Reagan, but nearly all Democrats, and a large contingent of establishment Republicans thought much the same of Reagan as you apparently do of Senator Cruz.
In the end, ideas do matter, but you need a leader to implement them.
I think you’re about to find that most Americans think they’re being “bullied” by Obamacare’s implementation, and that they will support anyone who tries to bring it to a halt. It’s a hugely unpopular law among people who have at least some idea of what it will do, and is doing now.
Well over half of the Obama voters couldn’t tell you squat about the law, and they aren’t in the least bothered by whether it’s funded or not. Granted, they’ll be plenty upset if their government checks don’t arrive on time, but they’ll be calling their center-city Congressman to complain, and when they do they won’t give a rat’s patootie about Obamacare if stopping it will restart their government payments.
Cruz and his compatriots are onto something here and if the more timorous members of the GOP caucus don’t figure that out pretty soon, most of them are going to face primary opposition. This law was passed in a despicable manner, and it’s a despicable law. The best way to fight it is to stop it from ever being funded.
Incidentally, my current tag line has been there unchanged for years...Finally someone is getting the message...
BUMP!
Care to reassess that statement you made now that irish has apparently been scorched?
The vast majority of Freepers did not turf him - the proprietor did. And irish pushed his luck - he went after JR personally, and JR decided that was a bit much.
He’s probably better off - he’ll spend more time with his kids, yadda yadda yadda.
He asked for it and got what he deserved, kinda like Hasan that wanted to be a martyr but isn’t.
Thanks for the ping, TOL.
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