[PieterCasparzen]

i haven’t read the op ed... or the article above. Putin’s exception to America’s exceptionalism is probably valid...

The Bible tells us that people are the same in the eyes of God.

I've never fallen for the shallow grasp at my pride where someone tells me I'm exceptional because I'm an American.

I'm just a humble sinner, no better than anyone else.

No nation, including America, as any implicit right to covertly overthrow another nation's government.

Every nation does have the right to defend itself from any attack. Every citizen has a right to go down swinging, right to the end, if they are attacked.

But false evidence of an attack does not legitimize aggression. Americans have been grossly lied to about their own history and the US government - and those who have the most influence on it - have precipitated wars and revolutions. Which infuriates me as an American citizen whose ancesters were in America long before America was America.

The founding fathers NEVER claimed that the "founding documents" gave America any rights superior to those of any other nation.

[teeman8r]

The founding fathers NEVER claimed that the “founding documents” gave America any rights superior to those of any other nation.

i never said the documents did that... what the documents do say is that the individual is superior to the State and that goes for all individuals and the rights one has... people have rights... nations have powers... nations have the power to defend themselves... people have the right to defend themselves.