[Wildbill22]

Subroc was a 30 mile range US weapon, depending on the source either 5 KT or 200 KT.

Soviets had nukes on all of their SSMs, and if there are not nukes on the Moskva it is not because those weapons don’t still exist in reserve. The Russians aren’t suppose to deploy with them though as per the 1991 agreement at the end of the Cold War.

Carriers are also not expected to survive a conflict with Russia/USSR if tactical nuclear weapons are used. Tactical nuclear war at sea was not something that was to favor the use of carriers toward the end of the Cold War, but to deter their use.

The TU-22M Backfire bomber and the AS6 was the real “carrier killer”, making the survival of aircraft carriers problematic in even strictly conventional warfare scenarios with a saturation attack.

You have to admit though, the Moskva is a beautiful ship. Russians made attractive warships, especially their cruisers.

[ryan71]

I would agree the Kirov class cruisers are nice looking ships but not the rest, including this Slava class. 16 missiles stacked on deck like weenies looks ridiculous compared Tomahawks in a VLS.

[AppyPappy]

The Russians are probably sending a tug with it to tow it back home.
The Russian practice of “Hang a whole bunch of high explosive s**t off the side and hope no one shoots at it” is a weird strategy in 2013. You almost think the Chinese are laughing at them for that one.
A Somali in a skiff with an RPG could sink that boat.