“We’re a hundred years getting into this mess and so it’s not going to be something where you flip a switch and get out of it, unfortunately. “
This is one of those things that people like to say, that sounds good but doesn’t really mean anything, except that in most cases the person saying it doesn’t really want to do the thing proposed or actually lacks any faith that it can get done.
Being that you don’t know Ken Ivory, you don’t know what you’re talking about. I have never seen someone work so hard, against all odds to educate and organize. FYI: He’s doing it in Utah.