[Vendome]

And you have presented nothing more than groundless pronouncements.

[Kansas58]

Natural Born Citizen means Citizen at the moment of Birth and nothing else.
That is what it has always meant.
YOUR position is “groundless” -— you can not present one shred of concrete testimony or evidence that proves your silly, tin-foil-hat position.
You try, your side tries, but all of your points have been shredded to pieces.
NOBODY takes birthers seriously.
Birthers are liberals, who want the Courts to decide matters over which the Courts have no Constitutional powers.