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Tougher laws not only way to beat drunken driving in WI, AG says
The Wisconsin Reporter ^ | 8-27-13 | M. D. Kittle & Ryan Ekvall

Posted on 08/27/2013 8:12:05 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

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1 posted on 08/27/2013 8:12:05 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; ...

Again, JB does a fine imitation of an idiot!

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.

2 posted on 08/27/2013 8:15:24 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Those guardrail impalements are getting to be fairly common now, especially for small cars.


3 posted on 08/27/2013 8:21:27 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

My preference? FIRST conviction (not just arrest; conviction) is a Felony and you become Bubba’s/Jethreen’s ‘Prison Wife.’

But, that’s just me. :)

Glad to see the stats showing less DD arrests, though.

In reality, in this economy, under this administration, who can AFFORD to be out drinking? I mean, when you’re working two jobs to keep your head above water, ain’t nobody got time fo’ Dat! ;)


4 posted on 08/27/2013 8:30:10 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

A boon to car insurance companies who can charge windfall rates after a conviction.


5 posted on 08/27/2013 8:32:19 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Prison rape is a national scandal.


6 posted on 08/27/2013 8:33:02 AM PDT by DManA
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The true problem are the folks driving with a .015 BAL or higher. They could give a rats butt whether the legal limit is .008 or .001.


7 posted on 08/27/2013 8:33:09 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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Want to cut down on Drunk Driving? Find out where all the political fundraisers are and throw a net over the place around 10:00.


8 posted on 08/27/2013 8:36:46 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
My preference? FIRST conviction (not just arrest; conviction) is a Felony and you become Bubba’s/Jethreen’s ‘Prison Wife.’

Just for getting pulled over while driving with a alcohol blood level above some arbitrary number?

Become a felon, lose everything, go to prison and get raped?

Didn't have an accident, didn't harm anyone.. just had a few beers?

Wow. The Taliban would LOVE you.

9 posted on 08/27/2013 8:38:09 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: editor-surveyor

A bit of a side note: We used to have guard rails that had each end curved and bent down into the shoulder. Those had to be removed because vehicles that swerved off the road rode right up the slope of the guard rail and then flipped.


10 posted on 08/27/2013 8:40:21 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Here’s a question for you. Imagine that you had to leave this planet and make a home on a new one. There are two choices. Both worlds are identical to this world in every way except for the following difference:

In world “A”, every driver on the road has a Blood alcohol level of 0.15. In world “B”, every driver is texting all the time they are driving.

Which world would you consider the safest to drive in?

I would like to see DUI enforced just like speeding. Going ten over gets you a ticket. Going 20 over gets you a stiffer fine. Going 150 in a 35 will land you in jail.

We don’t need to get tough on “drinking” drivers. We need to get tough on “drunk” drivers. I’m safer with a BAL of .12 than the average middle aged asian woman driver in Seattle with no alcohol in her system, but they are driving legally while I would see my life turned upside down if I ever actually did that and got caught.


11 posted on 08/27/2013 8:41:08 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: humblegunner

I live in a dry county and go to a baptist church. When the subject of keeping us dry (they are all for it) comes up I say, “I thought you were baptist. I did not know you were Mormon. Or is it Muslim?”

That gets the conversation going. Nobody who KNOWS the bible can use it to justify laws against adults drinking. And anyone who knows the bible can easily use it to demonstrate that.


12 posted on 08/27/2013 8:45:21 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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I always amazed the there are a lot of Freepers want more laws and more government control as long as it meets their agenda and not the lefts.


13 posted on 08/27/2013 8:46:06 AM PDT by riverrunner
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I always amazed the there are a lot of Freepers want more laws and more government control as long as it meets their agenda and not the lefts.


Last week I rented a three DVD PBS documentary on Prohibition. It was fascinating. It addresses just why it happened.


14 posted on 08/27/2013 8:47:44 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I think they should use a two pronged approach. The first is to stiffen penalties; but the second is a way for the drunks to avoid driving.

There are lots of alternatives already used in the second case, from low cost shuttling, to “warm rooms” with a cot. Having a breathalyzer in bars helps, as does encouraging the use of designated drivers.

For persistent and obnoxious drunk drivers, it would not be unreasonable to use court ordered injunctions directed at them as individuals, prohibiting their even entering places that served alcohol, prohibited serving them alcohol after public notification to such places, and even a small reward for such establishments informing the police about violations.

If they violate that order, they are immediately brought before a judge on a contempt of court citation, with no jury needed for the judge to lock them up for months.


15 posted on 08/27/2013 9:39:25 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: cuban leaf
I always amazed the there are a lot of Freepers want more laws and more government control as long as it meets their agenda and not the lefts.

I'm not amazed at all, cuban leaf: lots of people are in favor of a little freedom.

16 posted on 08/27/2013 9:44:54 AM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: cuban leaf
I’m safer with a BAL of .12 than the average middle aged asian woman driver in Seattle with no alcohol in her system, but they are driving legally while I would see my life turned upside down if I ever actually did that and got caught.

^^^^^^
This

Rather than some arbitrary BAC number, there should be a standard performance test (reflex time, etc) that EVERYONE must pass. Old people kill plenty of innocent people because of poor eyesight, poor reflex times and just being in over their head driving in traffic. In addition, some roads are easier to drive on than others. Perhaps a graduated license and a road classification system to keep incompetent people out of situations beyond their ability

17 posted on 08/27/2013 10:20:53 AM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: DManA
Prison rape is a national scandal.

Couldn't agree more.

18 posted on 08/27/2013 10:25:27 AM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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And it makes me a little sick when people joke about it.


19 posted on 08/27/2013 10:50:28 AM PDT by DManA
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To: humblegunner

I knew you’d all go nuts NOT reading my post. *Rolleyes*

Had anyone in your family murdered by a drunk? It’s called Vehicular HOMICIDE for a reason.

Walk a mile in my shoes.


20 posted on 08/27/2013 10:51:19 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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