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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks FN!

The joker who was claimed to be the mahdi and led that group that seized the grand mosque in Mecca back in the 1970s fit one of the prophecies to a ‘t’.

Those nutjobs were convinced that the waters of zamzam (the spring inside the enclosure, near the kaaba) would cure any ills sustained during their “liberation” of the mosque.

The “mahdi” was also convinced that he could not be harmed or killed, and was *picking up live grenades* thrown by the semi-competent Saudi security forces and throwing them back during the last above-ground assault.

Until the last one he picked up happened to explode in his hand, killing him.

There used to be catacombs under the the complex, which is where the really desperate fighting took place; subsequent to this fiasco, the catacombs were filled with rubble and concrete.

This angry, gullible mob of mahdists had a surprising number of survivors after the denouement, so the Saudis paraded them as captives, forcing them to view the body of their mighty leader. That pretty much took the rest of the fight out of them.

Some of them were from the US, and were repatriated, isn’t that nice?

“No virgins for you!!!”

Ka’aba under siege (1979 Grand Mosque Seizure by fake Mahdi)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TOsizlpOss

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Mosque_Seizure

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Juhayman_al-Otaibi.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Officers_Juhayman_al-Otaibi-1.jpg


10 posted on 08/23/2013 6:25:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SunkenCiv

from your link:

The seizure was led by Juhayman al-Otaybi, who belonged to a powerful family of Najd. He declared his brother-in-law Mohammed Abdullah al-Qahtani to be the Mahdi, or redeemer. His followers took that the fact that Al-Qahtani’s name and his father’s name are identical to Muhammad’s name and that of his father, and the saying (”His and his father’s names were the same as Muhammad’s and his father’s, and he had come to Mecca from the north”) to justify their belief. Furthermore, the date of the attack, 20 November 1979, was the first day of the year 1400 according to the Islamic calendar, which was stated by another hadith as the day that the Mahdi would reveal himself.[6]


Salafists, fundamentalists following the straight path (sharia) and forever enemies of the House of Saud. Explains why Saudi money is flowing to the military government in Egypt. The crown rests uneasy in Saudi Arabia.

That’s why they expelled Osama and stripped him of his citizenship. Osama was the nemesis of the perfumed King and the numerous Princes.


12 posted on 08/23/2013 6:50:11 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Juhayman al-Otaibi and John Walker Lindh appear to have sprung from the same cesspool.

13 posted on 08/23/2013 7:08:59 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: SunkenCiv

And to get back on topic, speaking of relics, I think it’s quite obvious, that as muhammad never had an original thought in his head, when he plagiarized the Original Testament and the New Testament, to which he added a little ancient arab desert lore, the ‘Madhi’ who would return was based upon the Hebrew Messiah.
He just gave The Messiah some arab relatives, that’s all, and insisted he be named muhammad.


14 posted on 08/23/2013 7:25:49 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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