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Learning from Our Wrong Turn - Why American counterinsurgency has proved to be unworkable.
National Review Online ^ | August 21, 2013 | Bing West

Posted on 08/21/2013 12:41:23 PM PDT by neverdem



TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; counterinsurgency; iraq
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1 posted on 08/21/2013 12:41:23 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
British historian and strategist B. H. Liddell Hart said many years ago that the object of war is to produce a “better state of peace” at a reasonable cost in blood and treasure.
The object of war is to destroy the enemy. Period.
2 posted on 08/21/2013 12:49:42 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: neverdem

0bama’s counterinsurgency in the USA is working just fine.


3 posted on 08/21/2013 1:08:11 PM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us about 0bama's America)
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To: Bratch
Damned straight and we have not won any war since we stopped doing that after WWII. The only way to nation build is to so destroy the enemy... to so destroy their infrastructure that when American troops roll in with medicine, water and food... the enemy is so grateful to be taken care of that he readily accepts his defeat.

LLS

4 posted on 08/21/2013 1:11:29 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: neverdem

If we had the civilian and military leadership that we did during WWII, Islam would have ceased to be a world wide threat six months after 9/11/2001.


5 posted on 08/21/2013 1:18:43 PM PDT by Ajnin (Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep.)
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To: Bratch

That approach worked pretty well with the establishment of the armistice ending the First World War, didn’t it?


6 posted on 08/21/2013 1:27:19 PM PDT by bagman
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To: Ajnin

“If we had the civilian and military leadership that we did during WWII, Islam would have ceased to be a world wide threat six months after 9/11/2001.”

Followed by 70 years of occupation?


7 posted on 08/21/2013 1:40:25 PM PDT by Owl558 (Those who remember George Santayana are doomed to repeat him)
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To: neverdem
"the idea should be to go in quickly with decisive military force, accomplish important objectives, and then leave."

Well said. And if the enemy repeats hostilities, invade, occupy, then...

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8 posted on 08/21/2013 1:44:11 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Owl558
"Followed by 70 years of occupation?"

Not really. Germany, Italy and Japan are freer countries than they were before the end of WWII. Better yet, they're allies.


9 posted on 08/21/2013 1:47:20 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: bagman

WWI and previous wars ended with irresolute results that led to further wars. Churchill and other WWII leaders recognized this and set a goal of UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. It worked so well that we decided to abandon that strategy in future wars, proving that while we attempt to learn from our mistakes, we do not learn from our successes.


10 posted on 08/21/2013 1:50:50 PM PDT by GRANGER
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To: neverdem

He makes some good points, but I disagree with the impression that COIN (COunterINsurgency) is a wrong strategy. COIN encompasses things that should and must be done to shape the future situation in any area to our interest. Does he advocate that we should ignore the plight of the non-combatant population? Not address their security or essential life support services? Disregard how the locals view us? No, of course he does not. The laws of War demand it, and it will shape how the locals view us for generations to come. COIN is an approach which must be pursued to some degree in any situation where enemy activity remains, and in the final phase of any operation when we have blown the place up. There is no getting away from it, and it is good doctrine to promote to the troops and field commanders. It is motivational to be fighting for righteous principles - it cultivates good behavior and thereby influences favorable attitudes toward us.

What was missing in Afghanistan/Iraq in my opinion, was the political will and skill to drive an end state most favorable to the USA. Rushing to elections before civic organizations, political parties and open media mature - before the population comes around and has been able to absorb and thoroughly digest the implications of the policies that potential leaders would likely implement in an informed and reasoned way - will allow the best organized thugs, the best liars, or those with the best covert foreign support to take control.

Letting Islamists base the constitution of Afghanistan on Islam instead of objective law was a disaster. Letting Iranian surrogates like Mookie al Sadr organize and operate in Iraq undermined our interests. If we had been hard nosed and installed local strongmen like Iyad Allawi in Iraq, they could have more quickly stabilized a pro-American regime (albeit with some heaping of dead bodies). If the author wants the low-cost effective outcome, that’s it and always has been - install an ally as strongman. If you want to shape the society for the future, or are more concerned with placating international (largely Anti-American) opinion, then spend relatively more blood and treasure developing relatively more of civil society and the economy.

I guess one take away for me is that you must gauge where the population is well ahead of time to estimate the resources required to achieve strategic success - they will vary widely. He points out that the population was polarized in Iraq, not mostly fence-sitters. That will require more time and effort to overcome. There were some world-class deep and extreme ideologies driving folks - more time and effort still. There was large scale foreign subversion underway. In Afghanistan, the economy and infrastructure were exceptionally under-developed. If you can’t afford the time, money, blood, lives and limbs; then install a strongman and give him lots of ammo. These strategic calls are made at the political level with military advice.

In any event, COIN practices should (must) be used whenever insurgency is part of the mix. We need capability for the full spectrum of threats. The one thing that we can safely assume about the next war, is that it won’t be the same as the last. Just as its a mistake to discard heavy high intensity capability for light COIN-only force structure, we have to maintain COIN capability as part of the full spectrum of potential challenges.

COIN capability is more amenable to contracting out versus maintaining a large, expensive standing force structure though - if it is well planned for, as is done for logistics under the Logistics Civil Augmentation Program (LOGCAP), which conducts ongoing deliberate planning in addition to providing a vehicle for contingency support. Assess and plan for the end state political objectives in the theater of operations as part of the operational plan - don’t leave it to chance, muddling, waffling - ultimately risking strategic defeat. It must be a realistic end state, based on the actual political situation of the population.


11 posted on 08/21/2013 2:53:11 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Bratch

Peace is when your enemy refuses to die for his cause.


12 posted on 08/21/2013 3:01:50 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: GRANGER

Your view of the Treaty of Versailles is rather different from mine, I guess.


13 posted on 08/22/2013 5:55:57 AM PDT by bagman
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