[DiogenesLamp]

The claim I made was that all real historians who have ever commented on the matter agree THAT THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE ON PRESIDENTIAL ELIGIBILITY WAS NEVER NEEDED.

Well you say it so often, no one can tell when you mean one thing or the other. One thing you can bank on though, only a fool asserts unanimity.

Thomas Bayard's saying that a child born in Ohio to a German father who LIVED IN GERMANY and was only VISITING THE US TEMPORARILY was not a US citizen has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with whether the Grandfather Clause was ever needed.

And yet you totally miss the Irony of your having defended Obama's citizenship all these many years.

Where was this guy from again? Wasn't he "only VISITING THE US TEMPORARILY and was not a US citizen"?

You have seriously lost it, my friend. You need to step away from the keyboard and go for a walk in the fresh air, and maybe take a break from FreeRepublic for a few weeks.

Conversely I could simply enjoy myself by watching you squirm as I demonstrate the falsity of your assertions.

[Jeff Winston]

Where was this guy from again? Wasn't he "only VISITING THE US TEMPORARILY and was not a US citizen"?

Yes, he was.

But Obama was born to an American mother on American soil.

That being the case, he is clearly a US natural born citizen.

Doesn't matter whether you like it. Doesn't matter whether I like it. Doesn't make him a good President. He's frankly a sorry-@$$ President. It just means he was legally elected. And whether you or I like it, that's the way it is.

Because unlike you, I recognize what the law is, whether I like it or not.