Posted on 08/18/2013 7:52:07 PM PDT by Red Steel
To try to ensure that people sign up for coverage, the Affordable Care Act carries complex penalties for those who remain uninsured that could cost them hundreds, or even thousands of dollars. Some 6 million people could be hit with these fines in 2016, forking $7 billion over to the federal government, according to the Congressional Budget Office. ...
Here's how the penalties will work:
Uninsured adults will either pay a flat fee for themselves and their children or pay a share of their income, whichever is greater. ...
Not every uninsured person will be subject to the penalty, however. In fact, 80% of the 30 million Americans expected to lack coverage in 2016 will be exempt from the mandate, according to the Congressional Budget Office.
Among those exempted include: undocumented immigrants, Native Americans and those who earn too little to file tax returns. Also, people who would have to pay more than 8% of their income for health insurance and poor adults who live in states that are not expanding Medicaid also aren't subject to the penalty. The uninsured can also file for hardship exemptions.
(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...
Wait until people have to cut these checks.
Get out the popcorn.
We have the “conservative” judge John F’n Roberts to thank for this (among many other scoundrels, including traitors, socialists, do-gooders, unionists, librarians, public employees, universities, and school teachers)
As noted in the article, an estimated 80% of the estimated 30 million uninsured will be exempt from paying the fine (or tax or whatever).
You may interpret that to mean that a.) illegal aliens and minorities will get a free ride while b.) only the honest, poor, working class whites will be stuck with paying the fine.
Our premium for 2 people turning 60 this year would be over $1200/month, which is more than 20% of our income, so we don’t have to pay the penalty. We also no longer have access to affordable health insurance, thanks to ZeroCare driving up the premiums with mandatory pregnancy and pediatric coverage, both of which I neither want nor need at my age!
Medicare Part B insurees are exempt from the fine. They’re already covered by an “approved” policy.
Medicare Part B insurees are exempt from the fine. They’re already covered by an “approved” policy.
The Congress could have put a lawsuit forth that said Roberts usurped them.
Roberts says if it is a tax it stands, but it did not pass congress as a tax.
Even Obama argued that is was not a tax.
Should this not go back through the congress upon Roberts ruling?
Where are all OUR lawyers? The place is stacked stinking thick with them.
Wait’ll the working folks with budget policies in the “expanded” states discover that they’re now in the Medicaid program. Popcorn futures should be an excellent investment.
Remember that those who are uninsured next year are more likely to be middle class struggling to pay for their healthcare after paying for the peoples next door first (taxes)
Doctors are now required to ask if there is a gun in the house, this is going to be the reason they choose to raid.. I mean "inspect" your home.
Our side is not organized
The IRS will take it out of any tax refund they get, they won't wait for no stinkin' check. You didn't think they hired all those new agents and bought all that ammunition just to "help" the folks, did you?
The IRS will take it out of any tax refund they get, they won't wait for no stinkin' check. You didn't think they hired all those new agents and bought all that ammunition just to "help" the folks, did you?
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It’s amazing so much of the citizenry wanted this.
I don’t know, but it makes you eligible to be president of the United States.
Wwwelllll, let’s see...
You’re right it didn’t pass Congress as a tax and Obama did argue it wasn’t, HOWEVER, during Supreme Court brief submissions and arguments Obama switched tactics and had his DOJ lackey claim it WAS a tax.
That flew under the radar screen of the reporting.
I recall how LIVID Mark Levin was at Robert’s ruling along with the faithful 4 libs, but after he collected himself he said it WAS presented in regime briefs and I think oral argument at some point. At the time he thought it was such a crock it could never be accepted by the court and was SHOCKED and ANGERED that Robert’s used it as a fig leaf over the worst decision EVER.
As for Congress running this through again this time as a tax so it could be defeated as such - it’s like anything else. The House would do one thing, the Senate another and Obama sides with Reid. The Regime and Reid do whatever they must to continue down this road. That’s all they care about.
Short of a deFUNDING showdown a la Mike Lee’s approach, I don’t see any legislative hope.
On that point, we have the GOP E running amok using the Left’s lingo that we must not “shut down the government” like it was us that would be shutting it down, when truth is it would be Obama/Reid shutting it down in order to continue shoving this monster down our throats.
Generally, such devices’ microphone function(s) can be defeated when desired (best is if an external plug [only] can be used to do so, as a mechanical “open” cannot be defeated no matter how much time / effort / money the NSA throws at it from a remote location. If they have a truck outside your house, you have a bigger problem!)
Perhaps some computers are different, but on my machines, either it is not possible to activate the internal mic when the mic jack has a plug in it, or, there is no internal mic in the 1st place.
Of course, if about 20 million people were devious and fed a stream of canned but “suspicious” audio with all the right “keywords” into U.S.’ communications network, at semi-random times, that’d overload NSA’s whole system. The problem is, we (or at least I) actually DO want them listening for real terrorists, so the question is how to limit the surveillance to only that. I have no real answer for that, as we have seen how easily any “legal safeguards” can be avoided or ignored.
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