[central_va]

As I reminded you in post 822, "[t]he immediate effect of what you call a "secession" by a state would be to strip American citizens in that state of their American citizenship and of all of their individual Constitutional rights."

A neophyte like you cannot remind me of anything. You however remind me of a horse's rear end.

"I love the Union and the Constitution, but I would rather leave the Union with the Constitution than remain in the Union without it."

President Davis, President CSA. (and a true patriot of the South and the Constitution)

[Tau Food]

The Civil War was all about a conflict between the rights of individuals and the claims of states that they had some sort of a Biblical right to abuse individuals. Secessionists believed it best that their states "secede" from the Union before the Union intervened to protect individuals from State abuse.

Jefferson Davis (and his bigshot secessionist, slaveholding buddies) were not exactly pioneers in the fight for personal liberty. They were proponents of the State ("State's rights has always been their battle cry), a State big enough to protect the elitist bigshot slaveholders from the serfs and slaves who surrounded them and who were forced to support their, worthless, parasitic, lazy lifestyles.

The secessionists were/are Statists with a capital S.

[0.E.O]

President Davis, President CSA. (and a true patriot of the South and the Constitution)

LOL!!!