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Wanted: A Republican Substitute for Obamacare
NRO ^ | 8/16/2013 | Deroy Murdock

Posted on 08/16/2013 7:18:08 PM PDT by JSDude1

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To: Rick_Michael

“The federal government is suppose to ensure that interstate markets are free “

Yet, the feds ban interstate insurance pools, effectively banning interstate commerce of insurance.


61 posted on 08/16/2013 9:01:47 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: JSDude1

How about capitalism?


62 posted on 08/16/2013 9:15:39 PM PDT by Persevero (Why does my tagline keep disappearing)
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To: JSDude1

Rush made a great point today about the notion of needing a Republican alternative. He simply pointed to 1994 when Newt and the House Republicans were fighting Hillarycare. Guess what? They didn’t have an alternative. They just said NO to it. The pubbies defeated Hillarycare with no alternative and were rewarded by the American public for doing so.


63 posted on 08/16/2013 9:17:57 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Jemian; JSDude1; no-to-illegals; All

The only problem with getting rid of the whole thing is the 30 million or more with NO insurance who are legally entitled to more expensive emergency room care, which you as a private person end up paying for.


64 posted on 08/16/2013 9:32:00 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: CodeToad

One thing everybody here ought to know about:

http://www.supersavermeds.com

The basic idea is that we all ought to be keeping two or three kinds of antibiotics on hand on general principles, as well as acyclovir for shingles or any other sort of herpes virus thing. Acyclovir cures some other kinds of virus problems but it's not gauranteed.

65 posted on 08/16/2013 9:44:08 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: JSDude1

The very first thing is Tort reform. Then you start with health care.


66 posted on 08/16/2013 9:45:55 PM PDT by tiki
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Re: “Pay for your own healthcare out of your own pocket?”

Completely unworkable in America's current health system.

If you are not part of an insurance or HMO plan, a “self-pay” will be charged 3 to 5 times more.

The main reason?

Self-pay clients make up for all the other people who don't pay their bills, and for those who must be lawfully charged at or below cost.

67 posted on 08/16/2013 11:51:03 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

Ever hear of medical tourism?


68 posted on 08/16/2013 11:51:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: JSDude1

The first alternative is to repeal the law (which removes the provisions which have halted countless new medical facilities that now won’t exist to treat anyone even though we have an aging population that will require more healthcare facilities, rather than fewer), then repeal other laws which caused the problems in the first place, and pass other laws to allow other things rather than prohibiting them. For example, break the backs of the monopolistic structure of health insurance by passing a law to allow for the purchase of health insurance across state lines.


69 posted on 08/16/2013 11:52:50 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: CodeToad

Indeed - and further codified this problem by making the “exchanges” contained within states as well.


70 posted on 08/16/2013 11:54:47 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Rick_Michael

United States v. South-Eastern Underwriters Association, 322 U.S. 533 (1944)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._South-Eastern_Underwriters_Association

Another of the New Deal rulings that expanded federal powers.


71 posted on 08/17/2013 2:00:58 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Rick_Michael

Paul v. Virginia, 75 U.S. (8 Wall) 168 (1869), was a historic case in corporate law in which the United States Supreme Court held that a corporation is not a citizen within the meaning of the Privileges and Immunities Clause. Of greater consequence, the Court further held that “issuing a policy of insurance is not a transaction of commerce,” effectively removing the business of insurance beyond the United States Congress’s legislative reach.

That was the precedent in 1944...overturned by the New Deal court.


72 posted on 08/17/2013 2:04:34 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: JSDude1

So Socialism imposed by Republicans will be somehow better than Socialism imposed by Democrats?

This is what it has come to... the final nail in the coffin as predicted by Milton Friedman.


73 posted on 08/17/2013 4:31:02 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: yorkiemom
The GOP had one, I believe, about the time Obamacare was voted on.

Yes, that sounds familiar. Did they totally forget about it?

That's the trouble with these idiots. The dems, like all socialists, have many LOOONG term goals. Every move they make is to further these goals. It's always push, push, push.

GOP on the other hand, seems to have no plans other than to react with surprise to everything the socialists spring on them.

It's like a chess match where one player is thinking many possible moves ahead and the other just reacts one move at a time.

They keep getting boxed into a corner because the only react, and usually in a not well thought out manner.

Now that we have the white black socialist in power, the moves are coming much faster since the rules are that the GOP is not allowed to react. That would be racist.

I'm sure that was planned, too, many years ago.

74 posted on 08/17/2013 5:32:14 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: JSDude1

HOGWASH!

Massive second party and third party payers, tort lawyers and the AMA monopoly have removed medical treatment from the free competition of the market.

Another version of central planning, even with a “Republican” label, is NOT the answer!


75 posted on 08/17/2013 6:10:00 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler

At least Gingrich didn’t fool the Republican primary voters in 2012, but someone else did.


76 posted on 08/17/2013 6:22:22 AM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!")
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To: JSDude1

No they DON’T. Turn it back to the states and we will get 40 great ideas and 80 so so ideas and two wrecks, instead of one big catastrophe.


77 posted on 08/17/2013 6:32:30 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: JSDude1
To be a credible opponent, the GOP must unite around a plan of its own.

As Rush Limbaugh pointed out, this kind of thinking, in and of itself, is a concession to democrats that they have the right to set the agenda.

Democrats declare that something they don't like is broken, then come up with a "solution" to fix the problem.

When republicans or conservatives criticize a democrat agenda initiative they are challenged with the accusation that they have no counter plan.

In fact most of the time the counter plan is no plan at all - just stop the government from fixing things that aren't really broken.

In the case of health care, the counter to Obamacare is to get the government out of our lives, out of our health care and let the free market prevail.

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78 posted on 08/17/2013 6:34:32 AM PDT by Iron Munro (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize - Voltaire)
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To: zeestephen
If you are not part of an insurance or HMO plan, a “self-pay” will be charged 3 to 5 times more.

Not where I live. I am usually charged far less, on the order of 50% to 60% of "insured" charges.

79 posted on 08/17/2013 6:48:55 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: Right Wing Assault
That's the trouble with these idiots. The dems, like all socialists, have many LOOONG term goals. Every move they make is to further these goals. It's always push, push, push.

GOP on the other hand, seems to have no plans other than to react with surprise to everything the socialists spring on them.


Great post. And it sums up my/our frustration with the GOP perfectly.

To give the GOP some credit (due or not), I think they are at least trying to represent the people. The liberals have an agenda and couldn't care less what the people want. If we balk at gun control this year, they'll just bring it up next year. Or the one after that. Like you said, they have long-range plans.

Which is NOT how a represenational government should work.
80 posted on 08/17/2013 6:51:02 AM PDT by yorkiemom
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