Every Citizen has some kind of certificate of citizenship, be it a birth certificate showing place of birth and nationality of parents or a document recognizing that your birth in a foreign nation conferred upon you citizenship by birth.
These are the same documents you must present when applying for a passport. Just because you need a document to prove your citizenship does not mean you were not a natural born citizen.
These trolls seem to think that the term “Natural Born Citizen” only applies to the laws that were in effect at the time the Constitutions was ratified. But Citizenship laws have been evolving since the creation of the nation state.
Each sovereign country passes laws which determine who is entitled to automatic citizenship in accordance with their own sovereign laws. There is no such thing as “Natural Law” when it comes to citizenship, as these trolls suggest. Natural Law applies only to the individual rights obtained by their creator, and all other determinations of rights and privileges are subject to the laws of the sovereign states in which they reside.
Citizenship has always been a privilege conferred by the state upon a person by virtue of the laws in effect at the time they become a citizen. Any person who becomes a citizen by virtue of birth is a Natural Born Citizen. Any person who becomes a citizen later as a result of some other statutory requirement is a Naturalized Citizen. There are no other types of citizens.
There is no “Divine Right” of citizenship or Citizenship conferred by “Natural Law” and all determinations of citizenship are subject to the laws in effect for the country upon which citizenship is conferred.
Ted Cruz was born a Citizen according to the laws of the United States of America in effect at the time of his birth. He is by virtue of that fact a Natural Born Citizen in accordance with the plain meaning of the Constitution.
End of story.
Yep, I agree. Some of these people are brainwashed. Some are being intentionally obtuse. It has become the beating of a dead horse.
Others seem to be actually reading the laws, thinking, and realizing that the brainwashed/obtuse crowd have had their comprehension skills sidelined by a neural over-ride of some kind.
I've read birther threads long ago, understood what the issues were, and have never commented on them until recently. The moronic attempt of this crowd to take out one of our best potential candidates has now changed my mind. For them to say Cruz can't run on their profoundly limited knowledge and arrogant presumption that only they understand the constitution on this issue is as close to madness I've ever seen on FR.
I'm glad they haven't made you give up and start bashing your head on your monitor, but do remember, this group may be incapable of rethinking their position, perhaps incapable of seeing they may be wrong. It's a deep hardening, a sad chapter in the ongoing saga of FR.
End of story.
Saying so does not make it so. To be a "natural born citizen" he must meet the requirements contemplated by the founders in 1787 when they wrote in the requirement.
According to their understanding, someone born in a foreign country to an American mother would not be an American citizen at all.