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To: xzins
and to do that you need to know who does and doesn’t need to be naturalized

No, that addition is your assumption. The Rule of Enumeration states otherwise.

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Yes, he is a natural born according to the way “natural born” was used in the Naturalization Act of 1790.

LOL! You can't base someones citizenship on a law that's no longer in operation, and there has been no new Revolution to entitle anyone to that right.

Again, if this were the case, there would be evidence. Please provide it.

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You keep hanging your entire argument on the single repealed Act. Let's take a close look at it.

the children of citizens of the United States, born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, shall be considered as citizens of the United States: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons, whose fathers have never been resident of the United States:

the children of citizens

Which means children of persons who were made citizens under the Act.

Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons, whose fathers have never been resident of the United States:

It says 'whose fathers have never been resident OF the United States'

This can only mean resident CITIZENS. It cannot mean resident aliens, because natural born citizenship cannot descend from something that is alien to it.

Cruz's father was a resident ALIEN, not a citizen. He only resided here for a short time.

IF he had applied for citizenship then instead of decades later, Cruz would have been natural-born, but he did not.

Cruz may be a US citizen AT birth by virtue of positive law , but a citizen BY birth can only be created by Natural Law, and only those type are Constituional, natural born citizens.

202 posted on 08/15/2013 10:17:47 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as defined by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as defined by the laws of Man)
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To: MamaTexan

The law of 1790 shows a broad use of the term “natural born citizenship.” It shows that it can be used for a child born overseas to only one US citizen parent.

The “necessary and proper” clause shows the Congress can do what they need to do to implement their powers.

To implement their power “to raise armies”, they have in times past utilized a draft of civilians. To make rules governing the military, they have decided that muslims can wear beards.

There isn’t a blessed thing in there about beards and muslims, but they considered it “necessary and proper.”

You can disagree with it, but it is still an exercise of their “necessary and proper” power.

The same with citizenship. They felt it necessary to define who already is a citizen to define to needed to be naturalized. They decided that those born overseas to at least one US parent did NOT need to be naturalized, that they were already automatic citizens.

In other words, Cruz was born a US citizen, and the broadness of their usage of the term “natural born citizen” means Cruz is a natural born citizen.


207 posted on 08/15/2013 10:33:41 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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