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SoCal Senator Pushes For Ammunition Buying License
CBSLA.com) ^ | August 13, 2013 8:27 AM

Posted on 08/13/2013 11:19:05 AM PDT by BenLurkin

LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — A controversial gun measure proposed by a Southern California lawmaker that would require background checks for all ammunition purchases statewide is moving forward in Sacramento.

Senator Kevin de León (D-Los Angeles) first introduced Senate Bill 53 last December, which would require anyone wishing to purchase ammunition in California to first obtain a Ammunition Purchase Permit issued by the Department of Justice, valid for one year from the date of issuance.

To obtain such a permit, the holder would have to pass a traditional background check as well as a mental health check, according to De León. The legislation would also ban online and mail order sales of ammunition to Californians.

In addition, SB 53 would require all ammunition sales to take place at a limited list of State-approved “ammunition vendors”, who would also be required to submit sales records to the CA Department of Justice.

But De León told KNX 1070 NEWSRADIO the legislation is intended to address an apparent loophole in California law that allows anyone – including convicted felons – to buy ammunition just about anywhere.

“If you get out of Men’s Central Jail, or let’s say Pelican Bay or San Quentin prison, you can walk into any gun store in California and you can load up a U-Haul truck, fill it up with ammunition, you can drive to South Central Los Angeles…and sell all the ammunition you want on the black market,” he said.

De León had previously backed AB 962, known as the Anti-Gang Neighborhood Protection Act, which sought to regulate handgun ammunition and was signed by Governor Schwarzenegger in 2009. AB 962 has since been tied up in legal challenges from the National Rifle Association (NRA).

The NRA has also publicly opposed SB 53 (PDF), which the group alleges would “encompass all hunting rounds that have no association with crime whatsoever.”

SB 53 passed in the state Senate by a 23 to 15 vote on May 29. The bill was scheduled to be heard by the state Assembly on Tuesday.


TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloodoftyrants; democrats; govtabuse; guncontrol; secondamendment; tyranny; waronliberty
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To: Red in Blue PA
Yes, that's another requirement I would institute. (not enough coffee yet or I wouldn't have forgotten it)

That wouldn't guarantee that they would respect it but it would eliminate ignorance as an excuse. Publish the results of the whole test so we would know what questions they failed. Before they are elected!

21 posted on 08/13/2013 12:10:16 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: BenLurkin

Ammunition sellers in Reno and Las Vegas support this


22 posted on 08/13/2013 12:15:54 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: BenLurkin

To buy a $5 box of .22 CA lawmakers want the buyer to pay twenty times that for a background check, fill out forms & pay for laminated license card? At what what point does a government act become unconstitutional? Is it as the trap door opens when you are on the scaffold with a noose around your neck?


23 posted on 08/13/2013 12:22:44 PM PDT by RicocheT (Where neither their property nor their honor is touched, most men live content, Niccolo Machiavelli)
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To: grobdriver
Road trip!

Invest a some helper springs for the back of your car or truck. You can bet that California police will be watching those border areas for cars that are loaded with heavy stuff, just like they used to do with moonshine runners.

24 posted on 08/13/2013 12:26:27 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: BenLurkin

There will be some real opportunities for big money to made in CA soon.

Many of our founders did will smuggling through their tyrannical governments too.


25 posted on 08/13/2013 12:30:48 PM PDT by NoLibZone (The reason we are where we are today is the belief that posting on a website will fix the nation.)
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To: BenLurkin

I thought we are supposedly to run a background check on illegal, since when gun owner is illegal and requires background check.


26 posted on 08/13/2013 12:48:34 PM PDT by Libertynotfree (Over spending, Over taxes, and Over regulation)
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To: Charles Martel
You can bet that California police will be watching those border areas for cars that are loaded with heavy stuff

Well screw that then - we'll take the RV-6.

Now gotta figure out how much 2,000 rounds of 5.56, 2,000 rounds of 45, 2,000 rounds of 9 weighs...
Oughtta be no problem if I leave the wife home!

27 posted on 08/13/2013 2:57:37 PM PDT by grobdriver
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To: BenLurkin

The inmates are running the asylum in California. Are there any sane people left there except JIMROB?


28 posted on 08/13/2013 4:32:59 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: vetvetdoug

I remember when I lost my mind.
There was something so pleasant about that place;
Even your emotions have an echo in so much space.

And when you’re out there without care....
Yeah, I was out of touch.
But it wasn’t because I didn’t know enough,
I just knew too much

Does that make me crazy?
Possibly.


29 posted on 08/13/2013 4:48:12 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: grobdriver
Now gotta figure out how much 2,000 rounds of 5.56, 2,000 rounds of 45, 2,000 rounds of 9 weighs...

Multiply accordingly, then tally up and add a bit for packaging weight:

9mm Luger
Hornady 115gr JHP/XTP
Rounds per pound: 38.10
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 2.63

.45ACP
230gr Winchester Ball
Rounds per pound: 21.33
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 4.69

.223/5.56X45
(milsurp) British Radway Green SS109 63gr
Rounds per pound: 37.21
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 2.69

Guesstimate: Roughly 60 lbs. each for the 9mm and 5.56 and close to twice that for the .45. You may need a bit more runway than when your wife is aboard.

30 posted on 08/13/2013 5:16:57 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: apillar

The gangsters had better declare they ammunition they picked up in Mexico before reentering California, or they will be BREAKING the LAW! Take THAT, gangbangers! /s;)


31 posted on 08/13/2013 9:33:02 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: BenLurkin
We already have to show our FOID license in Ss-Illi-noise to buy ammo.

It was so refreshing to be able to buy ammo right off the shelf when we were in Montana last month. No FOID, no questions asked, and the best part no sales tax.

I so want to move out.

32 posted on 08/14/2013 2:20:54 AM PDT by fulltlt
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“The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.”-Tacitus
33 posted on 08/14/2013 4:22:31 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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