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To: faucetman; SeekAndFind
He was born in Canada to a Cuban father.

According to the official obamabio, that makes him a natural born Canadian.

The only way there is no controversy about a person's citizenship, resulting due to the circumstances of their birth, is if they are born in the country that both parents are citizens of when that child is born.

This is the ONLY circumstance where all people and nations agree about the person's citizenship. No law or treaty required needed. This has always been so, no matter if citizenship comes from where you were born or if from your Father or if citizenship comes from your mother.

Whatever they or we choose to call the most pure of all citizenship status, born in country to citizen parents (father in their time) is what the FFs meant with the eligibility requirement: "Natural Born Citizen".

What was the FFs' intent for this sole office holder, with command of the military, in needing/requiring this purest level of citizenship? What were they trying to accomplish?

What is meant by the only exception to that NBC status?

They weren't being arbitrary about it. This was a Revolution against the King and they took loyalty and American citizenship seriously. Remember what they did to hero Ben Arnold.

Had we heeded their requirement, we would have avoided both McCain and obama! Instead, we argue like children over the meaning of "is".

37 posted on 08/12/2013 11:29:55 AM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Romans 1:18-32)
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To: GBA

You’re smokin’ somethin, right?


41 posted on 08/12/2013 11:39:29 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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To: GBA

Not sure who wrote what here, but forget “CITIZEN”. It’s “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN” Article II, Section 1, Clause 5. It is NOT a different kind of citizenship! It is a SPECIFIC requirement to be president. Oh, how I wish they had called it something else.

The FFs, because the president is the “Command in Chief”, his loyalty was to be without question. They didn’t want the one man in charge of the Army of the United States to have loyalties to foreign countries. Read the John Jay letter to George Washington on the subject.

Just look at Obama. No real ties to the U.S. He is more closely connected to Muslim countries and Communism than he is to Christianity and Democracy. He grew up in foreign countries and then a state that had only been a state a few years. Is Obama American? No he is not, no matter where he was born. He should be ineligible just because of his father’s lack of U.S. citizenship. Cruz has the same problem. Cruz has the added NO QUESTION disqualifier of undeniably born in a foreign country.

The problem here is the ignorance of the American people, some of which are convinced of their specious arguments. ANY logical person who examines the facts can come to no other conclusion than that you have to be born in the United States by 2 citizen parents. That your eligibility to be a president of the United States is determined at the moment of your birth. Were you born on U.S. soil? Were BOTH your parents U.S. citizens at that time? PERIOD!

Now, U.S. soil must be defined. To be unquestionable, it would have to be one of the 48 contiguous states & the District of Columbia. Questions could still arise about Alaska & Hawaii if the candidate were old enough because of the recent nature of them becoming states. Territories and possessions are a crapshoot. Many different laws apply to these and citizens of these places are generally “citizens by statute”, “not citizens by birth”. A “Natural Born Citizen” has to be a “citizens by birth”.

Site all your court cases (most don’t apply) and spew all your venom. The Constitution of the United States is the SUPREME law of the land. Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 was written into the constitution for the reason described above and has not been amended other than to ADD the same requirement for the Vice President. (12th amendment, last sentence)


42 posted on 08/12/2013 12:13:08 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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