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To: Venturer

Obama has nothing to do with Ted Cruz’s own position on his own eligibility. Had there never been an Obama, Ted Cruz is eligible and would explain it the same way, regardless of others’ circumstances.

When you link it with Obama, you’ve gone so far off the track of the issue of “natural born” and what that means, that the issue isn’t even rationally debatable.

I’ll take Ted Cruz on the defintion of “natural born” and his eligibility over the misinformed daily opines, any time, any place.

Just to have fun throwing this in, those who are the most adamant that Cruz is not natural born are actually - if you follow out the “logic” of what they’re claiming - saying that Cruz is not even an American. Not any kind of American.

Even if they don’t use those words, and even if they feign shock and surprise that they are claiming that whether intentionally or not, that IS the end result of their claim he can’t run.

The same claims made against his presidential eligibility would - if true - make him a foreigner. Either Canadian or Cuban - take your silly pick, or the only other option, A MAN WITHOUT A COUNTRY.

Whereas Cruz says you’re either a citizen when you are born, or else you must become naturalized later on, to be an American citizen.

Cruz and most legal scholars say being the offspring of an American citizen mother who was of legal age is the controlling factor making him a citizen at birth (natural born).

Not the soil of Canada, not the ancestral land of Cuba, not the naturalized father.

I’m advancing CRUZ’S position on the matter. Will I debate it with the outliers on FR? No, why should I? Cruz can handle it fine, himself, and has plenty of qualified help on the issue.


22 posted on 08/12/2013 9:57:27 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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To: txrangerette

Well: That makes one of you.

We will see what happens.


49 posted on 08/12/2013 1:45:03 PM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: txrangerette
Cruz and most legal scholars say being the offspring of an American citizen mother who was of legal age is the controlling factor making him a citizen at birth (natural born).

You're making this stuff up as you go, right?

Citizenship comes from your mother, but not from place or from your father? Just from mom?

That's your final answer?

Which nations in world, past or present, have used this matriarchal standard?

Is this just true for our modern world where illegitimate children and/or single parent, mom run households are common or has this always been the case?

What if dear ol' dad says otherwise? Whose lawyer gets to decide? What if the birth country says otherwise?

(Do you see your mistake yet? Only one form of citizenship avoids all of these arguments, which is why it was chosen.)

51 posted on 08/12/2013 2:40:21 PM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Romans 1:18-32)
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To: txrangerette
Cruz is considered one of the best legal minds in the country right now. I think he as much as anyone else knows or understands his eligiblity.

Whether he runs or not will pretty much answer that question.

52 posted on 08/12/2013 2:46:03 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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