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1 posted on 08/05/2013 7:02:03 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

When science become politicized and is used to force socialism down our throats...

No one trust scientists anymore.


2 posted on 08/05/2013 7:03:12 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: neverdem

He has an apt name. What is the social cost of providing all that carbon dioxide for plants to use to make oxygen? Why it is the benefit that we get the more we increase forest cover and plant growth. A high school biology student would know that this increases plant productivity. Duh!


3 posted on 08/05/2013 7:08:12 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: neverdem
Focus groups must have told them that "CARBON" sounds nastier than
"carbon-dioxide".
4 posted on 08/05/2013 7:11:47 PM PDT by DManA
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To: neverdem

Did they add in a positive dollar amount for the benefit of faster vegetation growth with increased CO2?


5 posted on 08/05/2013 7:14:19 PM PDT by DManA
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To: neverdem

I know a little science, and a bit of Torah and enough of politics to wonder that these characters don’t set up some sort of Urim and Thummim for all the so-called data that their “climatologists” can come up with.


6 posted on 08/05/2013 7:15:13 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: neverdem
Economists, regulators, and activists all try to calculate the social cost of carbon—that is, the economic and ecological damage caused each time we add a ton of carbon dioxide to the atmosphere by burning fossil fuels.

When carbon enters the atmosphere from any source, plants extract the carbon. Using the energy from photosynthesis, they convert the carbon dioxide into the basic biological molecules that form all living things. Animals eat the plants and incorporate those biological molecules into their own bodies. In addition, animals make enough carbon dioxide for their needs from those biological molecules. The carbon cycle is a wonderful thing. And it does *not* have a social cost.

7 posted on 08/05/2013 7:25:44 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: neverdem

The big brain liberals should calculate another question:

The cost of NO carbon.


8 posted on 08/05/2013 8:41:51 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: neverdem
Just one point of order. There has not been any global warming in approximately 17 years and there is not likely to be any warming in the next 5 years either. This is despite rising CO2 levels. The theory that man made CO2 is having more than a negligible effect on the climate and the models based on that assumption have failed to have any predictive value at all.
9 posted on 08/05/2013 8:48:34 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: neverdem
These social costs are called "externalities". And to make things even more complicated, there are other externalities that are social benefits, such as keeping warm, obtaining light, and being able to travel at will. Those would have to subtract from the social costs.

But both are not quantifiable, and so it is absurd to include them in hopes of getting an accurate price of anything.

10 posted on 08/05/2013 8:51:57 PM PDT by raisetheroof ("To become Red is to become dead --- gradually." Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
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To: neverdem

Translation: Junk science is ideal for politicians that want to legally steal from you and call it a tax for a benevolent purpose as told to us by “scientists”.


11 posted on 08/05/2013 9:05:57 PM PDT by Wuli (uir)
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To: neverdem

Where can an interested person find documented the “instrument” used to predict the quantitative effects of variations in atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations?
Who has conducted the scientific investigations that undergird the predictive instrument?
Or is it all based on political convictions?


12 posted on 08/05/2013 9:16:05 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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14 posted on 08/05/2013 10:11:11 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: neverdem

I’m shocked I tell you...


16 posted on 08/06/2013 9:11:08 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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