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To: GeronL
Abortion is one of the few "religious right" issues where it seems we are making some headway. Good arguments can be made that direct harm is occurring to real people ... that lots of people on all parts of the political spectrum can agree are real people.

The gay "marriage" issue is a tougher sell. What real direct harm is it doing to anyone? Especially anyone that doesn't believe in a spiritual world or God? The common counterargument is "Well if you don't think gay marriage is right then don't get married to someone of the same sex!" The average person couldn't give a damn about the "overturning of a centuries old definition of marriage". That is merely a concept to them, and concepts don't get them excited.

But if real people are being really and truly hurt then the case can be made to stop that from happening.

So I think it is important from a strategic point of view that organizations that support right to life issues specifically make no comments one way or the other on these other issues. And even if NRTL does support Rob Portman doesn't mean they support him on everything. How many of us are big Ronald Reagan fans? How many of us agree with his 1986 illegal alien amnesty bill? I am not a supporter of illegal alien amnesty just because I am in general a big fan of Reagan and his presidency. NRTL is not a supporter of gay marriage if they happen to support Rob Portman. If they have gone on record explicitly in support of gay marriage, then I believe they are wrong to do so. It doesn't advance the cause against abortion, and it just muddies the waters in general.

And as far as the "gay marriage" issue being an RTL issue, well here are some others if you're willing to stretch things a bit:

1. 2nd Amendment: If I can't own a gun, I can't protect my right to life when accosted by a criminal
2. Property Rights: If my property rights are infringed then I won't be able to establish a place to make my last stand against a tyrannical regime and/or common criminals.
3. Secondhand Smoke: If we don't stop all smokers from smoking right now and forever more, then I might accidentally inhale some secondhand smoke which might reduce my lifespan by several milliseconds. Horrors!
4. Medicare/Medicaid/Obamacare: If I don't have free and easy access to the medical care I need then I could die prematurely.
etc.

53 posted on 08/05/2013 5:47:19 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

How about the 1972 Equal Rights Amendment? Should a prolife organization oppose that?


54 posted on 08/05/2013 6:08:48 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Homosexual “marriage” will strengthen the perversion of embryonic research among our “progressive” society you fool.

How will homosexual “married” couples reproduce as close to a natural conception as possible (Which would is a perverted goal of theirs)? How many embryos do you will be killed to reach their goal of viable conceptions? NRLC sure are made up of short sighted fools that can’t see the end game with that issue.

Homosexual “marriage” will strengthen the perversion of embryonic research you fool.


65 posted on 08/05/2013 7:15:24 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Sorry, how many embryos (Do you think) will be killed to reach their goal of viable conceptions?


66 posted on 08/05/2013 7:16:42 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Pro-gay is anti-life. Only those who aren’t strong in their convictions are blind to that fact.


68 posted on 08/05/2013 7:24:49 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Bitter clinger & creepy-ass cracker)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Again sorry, insemination(s) not conceptions (My lack of proofreading has rendered me a grammar fool, but my points still need an answer by your support of the NRLC policies).
70 posted on 08/05/2013 7:30:35 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Good principle makes good politics. Lack of principle is what makes the mess we are living in. Had enough? Try consistent principle.


91 posted on 08/06/2013 9:27:07 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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