You are not at DU trying to persuade liberals to move right and support conservative economics, you are at freerepublic trying to persuade conservatives to move left, and embrace social liberalism.
The agenda of libers to destroy social conservatism nationally and in law, leads to a culture that breeds and creates more voters for the left in vast numbers.
It is the sweeping away of civilization and American conservatism with the libertarian social agenda that creates an endless wave of many MILLIONS of new, always more, permanent big government voters.
I’m here to discuss what libertarianism is, is not, how and why it was fused with traditionism, and how those things play out in our contemporary politics. I enjoy that sort of discussion.