I wish I would have read the whole thread first Dadfly, you admit to oversimplifying and seem like a nice enough fellow.
My position is this. I will vote for a conservative despite some libertarian leanings. So I don’t give a flying @#$ what ansel likes to throw out there in philosophical debate. Never again will I vote for a non-constitutional GOP member. These idiots who like draw lines between Cruz and Paul are insane in my opinion. In any case anyone from the Bush tree is done forever. Anyone from the tree of Bill Kristol, Dick Cheney, McCain, Boehner, Paul Ryan, Chris Christie etc. Done. I don’t care where they stand any issue at this point they are dead.... useless. Those folks are far more dangerous than Rand Paul.
Wow, if you are discussing a freeper, then ping him.
That was where i was back when the debate here was RINO John McCain vs. not as much of a RINO George Bush in 1999.
It’s been a weird decade and a half....