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To: Kansas58

So are you stating that these two quotes below by the 14th Amendment author regarding U.S. citizen parents of natural born citizens owing allegiance to NO foreign sovereignties is stupid?

“All from other lands, who by the terms of [congressional] laws and a compliance with their provisions become naturalized, are adopted citizens of the United States; all other persons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens. Gentleman can find no exception to this statement touching natural-born citizens except what is said in the Constitution relating to Indians.” (Cong. Globe, 37th, 2nd Sess., 1639 (1862))

“Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))


337 posted on 07/29/2013 3:48:24 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter
You have very little grasp of this topic.
Let me help you, again:
The 14th Amendment only applies to those born in the United States, and even then, it might not apply to everyone born in the United States. (”Subject to the jurisdiction thereof”)
The 14th has VERY little to do with Ted Cruz.
I will not get into conversations about the 14th Amendment in a Cruz thread.
368 posted on 07/29/2013 5:08:19 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

The writing and opinion of a 19th century U.S. Congressman will not trump CURRENT U.S. law:
8 U.S.C. § 1401 : US Code - Section 1401: Nationals and citizens of United States at birth
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person:
(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date;

My money is on no court in the land ruling that Senator Cruz is ineligible, based on what has happened with the more than 200 lawsuits challenging Obama’s eligibility.


375 posted on 07/29/2013 5:24:51 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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