[maggief]

http://www.salon.com/2013/07/24/amash_vs_bachmann_on_nsa_bill/

Republican Reps. Justin Amash and Michele Bachmann sparred over the NSA’s phone surveillance program, with Bachmann saying she is opposing Amash’s bill to defund it because “I believe that we need to win the War on Terror.”

The two were speaking during a monthly Conversation with Conservatives event, and Bachmann began by defending the program from arguments that it violates the Fourth Amendment. “Individuals do not own the records, the records belong to the company,” she said. “The records are in their possession, they belong to the phone companies, they’re not the individual’s. So there’s no Fourth Amendment expectation of privacy or right to the business-record exception.”

[Sopater]

“I believe that we need to win the War on Terror.”

“The records are in their possession, they belong to the phone companies, they’re not the individual’s. So there’s no Fourth Amendment expectation of privacy or right to the business-record exception.”

Uhg, how dissapointing. "Win the war on Terror" by shredding the Constitution. This will have a chilling effect on businesses that handle private information. However, it could be a boost for a company that is willing to protect that info at the risk of butting heads with the gov't.

[i_robot73]

Let’s take her argument at face value, being the phone co’s data.

- How does it then become the ‘gov’t’s data’?
- Can the phone company also record all conversations as well as the other data (I’ll presume the latter, not the former)

I read nothing in the 4th that stipulates that ANY of this is viable w/out a Warrant.

I presume she’s got some of the same ‘ideas’ for those ‘common-sense’ guns laws too?

[Jane Long]

Rep Louie Gohmert (R-TX) was on Glenn Beck's show, earlier. He said he consideres Bachmann a dear friend, but cannot begin to understand why she would not just vote how she did, but flat out say what she did to justify her vote.

Beck and cohorts were saying the same thing...why she said there's a "false narrative" about what the gov't is collecting.

Gohmert doesn't get why Bachmann and Steve King voted against this bill, knowing full well what all IS being collected.