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To: Blood of Tyrants
If blacks were not responsible for over half of all violent crimes, then whites might not think that so many blacks are criminals.

This is a conversation about race in America. Logic and facts are against the rules.

Speaking of, an author at The Root just wrote an article outlining the official rules for this allegedly honest conversation about race that numerous black people keep calling for. Here are those official rules...

The Root's Race Talk Ground Rules (July 24, 2013)

So, if we're going to have a "conversation on race," I offer this nonexhaustive list of ground rules and reminders. It's based on my hope that we can retire some of the predictable talking points and misleading themes that do nothing but derail the type of dialogue that's been called for once again.

1. Talking about race isn't racist. Don't say that. Vilifying people who discuss race and point out racism -- making them the bad guys -- is one of the ways racism is maintained. So is acting as if "blacks suffer from racism" and "whites suffer from reverse racism" are equally valid points of view.

2. Yep, sometimes there are different standards for black and white stuff. You are going to get a different reaction for White History Month and Black History Month. A black person making a joke about race is different from a white person making a joke about race. To accept this requires letting go of the idea that this is really simple and thinking a little deeper about context and history. Please give up on the "But what if the races were reversed?" line of thinking. That type of analysis makes conversations simple, but it also makes them totally unhelpful.

3. African Americans are not monolithic. There is not one black experience or black point of view, and -- surprise -- black people are individuals who don't agree on everything and shouldn't have to answer for one another's actions, any more than white people do. (So saying a black person can't dislike the n-word because rappers use it doesn't make sense. The person who stated an objection and the person who wrote the rap don't actually share a brain.)

4. Remember that while "race" itself isn't real, racism is, and our country's long and well-documented history with racism has very real, lasting effects. Therefore, being "colorblind" is not helpful because it cripples our ability to deal with the tangible effects of racial inequality in just about every area of life.

5. Black people shouldn't have to fit your definition of what's respectable to deserve equality or justice. It's silly and unfounded to blame inequality caused by institutionalized racism on, say, sagging pants or rap music. If you want to celebrate black people who are educated and high-achieving and defy persistent stereotypes, great, but that can't be a requirement for fair treatment. We got into trouble with this type of thinking when evidence that Trayvon Martin was a normal teenager messed up so many people's impression of him as a sympathetic victim.

6. Don't defer to people like Bill Cosby about their theories about black people, any more than you would defer to a miscellaneous white celebrity about how white people are doing. If you need guidance, look for someone whose background offers evidence that he or she had the incentive to spend some time seeking information and thinking critically in a professional capacity about whatever it is the person is discussing.

7. Individual racism and systemic racism are two different things. We should care about all the structures that maintain racial inequality, not just individual actors. (This is why it's not unreasonable to jump from George Zimmerman's impression of Trayvon Martin to racial profiling by police.) That said, individual acts can provide strong reminders about larger attitudes and problems. Ahem, Paula Deen. Ahem.

8. Don't give the word "racism" so much power that you can't speak rationally after you hear it. Remember that the threshold for "racism" is a lot lower than being a member of the KKK and hating every black person you see. It means buying into and perpetuating things that support the idea of white supremacy. You can be a very nice person and still do that, even without meaning to. You can do it even if you have black friends. 

9. Resist the urge to believe and regurgitate myths about black people, even when they're promoted by black people (African Americans are all more homophobic, black-on-black crime is uniquely bad, there are more black men in prison than in college, all black women love being fat, etc.). Take a minute to challenge the things you hear many say over and over. You'll often find they don't have a strong basis in reality.

10. Finally, stop thinking about and discussing racism as something that's the problem of black and other nonwhite people. Remember that there's an ever-growing movement of anti-racist white people concerned with dismantling white privilege. When you're talking about racism, remember that it's not just bad for those whom it oppresses; it's bad for everyone because it creates an unjust society. When people want to fix racism, they do it not because they're being charitable or nice, but because they're being smart and decent.

90 posted on 07/24/2013 12:44:46 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
Seems like a lot of words to say nothing. They really could have stripped the "nonexhaustive list" down to one salient point:

"If you're white, then you're wrong."

127 posted on 07/24/2013 1:04:13 PM PDT by wbill
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
I think you have offered some intelligent insights which I for one would do well to keep in mind in my personal relationships.

The problem confronting conservatives is that the game is legislation and the goal is power. It has now come to the place in America in which we are utterly dominated by identity politics. That is why I repeat ad nausea Nathan Bedford's first Maxim of American politics: all politics in America is not local but ultimately racial.

The Zimmerman affair proves to a moral certainty that at least one side of the black/white game for legislation and power has utterly abandoned reason and resorted to emotionalism, victimology, histrionics, stereotypes, racism, and demagoguery. All of these were evidenced in abundance in the George Zimmerman affair.

One can analogize the psychology of the African-American "community" in reaction to the George Zimmerman affair to the pathology of the Arab street. Both have shown themselves to be immune to reason.

The problem is further compounded by a media which operates on an agenda and has concluded that its role as journalists charges them with shaping the American society as regards race. One can only presume that the media is a child of the Academy and the grandchild of the media's role in the civil rights struggles of the 1960s. Whatever the genetic cause, the media has totally given itself over to The Critical Theory, or Political Correctness, in which truth and reality are wantonly sacrificed to the agenda.

If blacks are going to vote their race 96% of the time, and the media is going to distort the issues on behalf of that race, we have an unequal playing field in the game of political power. One need only read the posts on this thread to realize that a minority at least of white America is waking up to this game and is declining to continue play victim.

Identity politics by its very nature forces people of the out of favor identity to vote their race. This is inevitably going to happen in America if this trend continues. Worse, the real meaning of the Zimmerman case, (limiting its meaning as a criminal case rather than as a social phenomenon), is that the country is in danger of letting Identity Politics force us into a world of Identity Justice. When the test of guilt or innocence becomes the color of skin, the grand game of democracy in America is clearly over. For the African-American community, the only test and Zimmerman case has been the color of skin.

It is wrong to legislate based on subjective feelings of a group. It does not matter whether Travon Martin had a cultural instinct to take umbrage at being profiled, he had no right to commit a vicious, atrocious, deadly, unprovoked, assault. It is equally wrong to adjudicate on the basis of skin color. And it is fundamentally wrong to legislate the cultural mores of a race in a misguided concern to spare subjective feelings. It is wrong to socially engineer society to require the innocent half by law to accommodate the crime and pathology of the other half.

This is appeasement and it will lead us as a nation to disaster just as appeasement to sharia will lead to disaster. It is all well and good, even noble and recommended, for us to comport ourselves in our personal relationships according to the standards you lay down, but when it comes to exercising power over me and my family and compromising our constitutional rights, I decline to take a knife to a gun fight.


161 posted on 07/24/2013 1:41:34 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
5. Black people shouldn't have to fit your definition of what's respectable to deserve equality or justice.

They should be no less subject to such definitions than would be people of any other race. The notion that they should be uniquely exempt from any such definitions is, in and of itself, racist.

187 posted on 07/24/2013 4:04:24 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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