Posted on 07/12/2013 6:17:38 AM PDT by thackney
Nowadays we are always on the bottom looking up. We are the south end of the mule heading north.
On the other hand, there is always something new...company to convert gas to gasoline
Posting to confirm all the TheThirdRuffian said.
The nat gas at your house has been cleaned. It is nearly pure methane.
GE is involved, GE/Chesapeake, GE/Penske. GE is also rolling this out in Europe.
The whole thing is prefab, skid mounted, and delivered to a location for use. These would be available for a fleet operation or a C-Store
GE even offers these on a lease and if GE Leasing is involved, other leasing companies will also do it.
Just do a google search and/or google image search of CNG in a box.
“Raw” natural gas from the well head often contains some propane, ethane and some less desirable stuff like water, Nitrogen, CO, CO2, H2S, etc.
Natural Gas after the gas processing plant and what is delivered to your home is nearly pure Methane, CH4. Propane is a different molecules, C3H8.
When it gets cold, the vapor pressure changes a lot. When it gets cold enough, the liquid in the pressure tank won't produce enough pressure to feed the fuel system.
http://www.fleetsandfuels.com/tag/cng-in-a-box/
June 29, 2013
This is a good application for a standardized pre-fab.
I hope someone quickly develops of competing product to stinkin GE’s.
The conversion process takes money and energy and so adds cost. Depending on the price of oil it may or may not be economically feasible. CNG has some other benefits, too. It burns so cleanly that oil changes are required less often and engines last longer. The drawbacks of cold weather starts and less availability compared to gas stations are solved with a dual use vehicle.
I didn’t know that CNG vehicles had a problem with cold weather starts? How bad is it?
From what I’ve heard it is difficult to start and get a CNG vehicle to run smoothly until it has a chance to warm up in near freezing weather. It can be solved by an engine heater, parking inside a garage or avoiding the situation by having a dual use engine.
That is good to know, because we have toyed with the idea of getting a Honda Civic CNG car for my husband’s commuter car, even though it costs so much more.
I doubt we will now, since we do often have cold days in the winter. Probably stick with getting a Subaru Impreza. However, with the way the economy is, we will stick with his Ford “Barge” for a long time.
Yes it is amazing that that it costs $400,000 to $1.7 million to build a station, yet 3rd world hell holes can pump it on the cheap! Does anyone really think it costs that much to build one in the 3rd world? lol Poor ole American’s taking it in the shorts once again.
I am glad to have been a little help. I do not know if Honda solved that issue or not, though, so I hope that I did not steer you wrong.
Certainly good to know. Nothing is perfect, of course. As Thomas Sowell says, “There are no solutions, only trade-offs.”
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