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Day 23 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Closing Statements
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 11, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/11/2013 4:59:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 11th, is DAY #23 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday the defense rested its case. A legal analysis via Professor Jacobson HERE.

From my perspective the entire case ended, as expected, early in the day yesterday when Judge Nelson gave George Zimmerman his personal Platinum Express DCA Acquittal Card. The ruling, and more importantly the legal determination she used on the ruling, regarding the Trayvon Martin phone evidence was an immediate Nuclear DCA option. Nelson essentially ruled against admissibility based on ”authentication”. She could have kept it out under other legal reasoning, but no, she chose the one without the slightest chance of being upheld by a District Court of Appeals. IMHO this was intentional and aligns itself with the way she has ruled during the pre-trial discovery phase, and during the case itself. She’s a rigid ideologue, but she’s not stupid – this was intentional.

By ruling the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be “authenticated” to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin just gave the dismissal of the case to George Zimmerman with a bow on it.

As it was carefully explained to me, the phone is like a bucket. The data inside the phone is like marbles in a bucket. Some marbles from calls, others from pictures, others from texts, etc. The State brought the bucket into court – and validated the bucket contents with their own witness from the phone company – Both the State and the defense then began arguing their case around the phone call marbles in the bucket – Primarily with Rachel Jeantel. But no-one challenged the bucket itself. The State authenticated the bucket and the content of the bucket during the introduction.

The defense picks up the same bucket the state hands them, and now begins to use the contents – texts and pictures – and then Nelson rules the bucket itself cannot be authenticated. It doesn’t work that way.

If the state authenticates evidence, it cannot be divided and only authentic when the state holds it, but not the defense. Flawed logic – ABSOLUTELY positioned to give such a prejudicial outcome, the appeal would result in dismissal, not retrial. Nelson gave the case away to George Zimmerman.

She could have ruled on relevance, admissibility, or other factors – but she chose the one destined to fail, “authentication”. She gave it away.

In other news, people are catching on to the Eric Holder, Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division, Community Relations Service – being the actual puppeteers behind the entire construct of the false case. To them we say “welcome to the party pal“.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; livezimmermantrial; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: combat_boots; xzins

See post 2516


2,521 posted on 07/11/2013 2:59:43 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: freeangel
Yea, but it was hazardous waste—I think that carries a longer sentence.

It was bio-degradable. That has to count for something.

2,522 posted on 07/11/2013 3:00:48 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic; imardmd1

See post 2516


2,523 posted on 07/11/2013 3:01:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: EDINVA

He’s also quite good at the subtle needle. That “may I use your doll” remark, for example.


2,524 posted on 07/11/2013 3:01:10 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Nervous Tick
What is an “overloaded” gun?

ready

2,525 posted on 07/11/2013 3:02:32 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: VRWCarea51
"But wait . . . the kid is dead. He can’t tell his version."

That's kind of like the Menendez (sic?) trial in California.

Two sons sneak up on their parents. Parents were watching TV, I think. Gunshot. Gunshot.

I think the defense actually said to find the brothers 'not guilty' because, after all, they were now orphans. IIRC, these guys, I think, were in early 20's of age.

Defense told them to wear certain pullovers to look normal and neat and the defense was hanging all over them as if she was mother to those cute little scamps.

They went to prison.

2,526 posted on 07/11/2013 3:02:50 PM PDT by hummingbird (THE LIBERTY AMENDMENTS by Mark Levin. He has a great plan.)
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To: flaglady47; Gorilla44
“That was the most pathetic closing I have ever witnessed. I’m predicting a NOT GUILTY by 8 p.m. tomorrow.”

The problem is that the State gets one more shot at it, one more hour of rebuttal after the defense’s presentation is over.
And that hour will be done by the other prosecution team lawyer, not this one.
And the State will hear what was considered wrong with today’s presentation, what was missing, the critiques, all before they have
to put on their one hour rebuttal, so that they can correct
and fill in the gaps from today’s presentation.
That’s the bad news.


Well Gorilla44 posted the predication. I just smiled :)

Me, I'm going to pray for the jury members (especially them)
and defense team to be safe.
I think George Zimmerman should be acquitted.
I believe that Trevor came back after talking to that girl to teach Zimmerman a lesson.
And that things went terribly wrong after that.
2,527 posted on 07/11/2013 3:04:31 PM PDT by novemberslady (Texas For President)
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To: viaveritasvita

Today’s closing argument was long on emotion, short on concrete and truthful facts. Just like a typical Dem on any given day. All emotion, no facts.


2,528 posted on 07/11/2013 3:04:38 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: novemberslady

I think he went back to get that ‘break in’ tool he left in the bushes, and got mad because Zimmerman was still following him.


2,529 posted on 07/11/2013 3:06:25 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Uncle Chip

Can MOM tell the jury what the sentencing guidelines are for each charge?

Someone said he was prohibited from doing so.

What is the penalty for him just stating the info to the jury?


2,530 posted on 07/11/2013 3:06:25 PM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: RetSignman

roflmao


2,531 posted on 07/11/2013 3:07:30 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: deport; Gorilla44
You maybe correct. But, don’t forget that the state gets the final rebuttal once the defense completes their closing arguments. So they get to punch holes in the defense and theirs will be the last words heard before the judge sends them into deliberations.

Hi Deport.
Gorilla44 made the prediction. :)
2,532 posted on 07/11/2013 3:08:57 PM PDT by novemberslady (Texas For President)
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To: UCANSEE2
Didn't the girl say when she spoke to Trevor he was at his fathers house?
I think so.
2,533 posted on 07/11/2013 3:10:47 PM PDT by novemberslady (Texas For President)
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To: longtermmemmory; matt04

“overloaded”

So 16+1 and two spare mags would be an “arsenal”?


2,534 posted on 07/11/2013 3:10:48 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: viaveritasvita
Knock knock

Who's there?

You got a problem?

No

You got a problem now - kerpow kerpow

Help help, kerpow kerpow, help help, kerpow kerpow

Bang.
2,535 posted on 07/11/2013 3:11:20 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: ArmstedFragg

;-)


2,536 posted on 07/11/2013 3:11:40 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: Donnafrflorida

Donna, take papa bear’s advice to heart. This person will LIE about what you say and do, make it up out of whole cloth if necessary, just to get you into trouble big enough to get you fired. Do not interact with her in any way unless you have a witness! Please!

And never say the word “shoot” around her, even with a witness!


2,537 posted on 07/11/2013 3:13:11 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: deport
Interesting. On WTF9 the commentators who have been pro-state throughout the trial were quite dismayed at BLDR's closing arguments. On the way home, listened to HLN on Sirius and they were PRAISING BLDR and say "he really brought it home." I was absolutely stunned.

I don't know what to think but if it were my choice, NOT GUILTY on all counts would be my ruling. Because of the jury rules, disregard for the rule of law, etc. I wouldn't be surprised at a Manslaughter charge which will be overturned on appeal.

2,538 posted on 07/11/2013 3:14:56 PM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: XenaLee

A few times in my life I’ve seen a racehorse not leave the gate. Other times run dead last . Once I saw one jump the fence and run through the infield.
Each time I would LMAO.


2,539 posted on 07/11/2013 3:18:40 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

He can’t do that but I’m sure tomorrow he will dispel with the culpable negligence part of the manslaughter charge in his closing remarks.


2,540 posted on 07/11/2013 3:20:37 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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