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Day 23 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Closing Statements
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 11, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/11/2013 4:59:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 11th, is DAY #23 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday the defense rested its case. A legal analysis via Professor Jacobson HERE.

From my perspective the entire case ended, as expected, early in the day yesterday when Judge Nelson gave George Zimmerman his personal Platinum Express DCA Acquittal Card. The ruling, and more importantly the legal determination she used on the ruling, regarding the Trayvon Martin phone evidence was an immediate Nuclear DCA option. Nelson essentially ruled against admissibility based on ”authentication”. She could have kept it out under other legal reasoning, but no, she chose the one without the slightest chance of being upheld by a District Court of Appeals. IMHO this was intentional and aligns itself with the way she has ruled during the pre-trial discovery phase, and during the case itself. She’s a rigid ideologue, but she’s not stupid – this was intentional.

By ruling the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be “authenticated” to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin just gave the dismissal of the case to George Zimmerman with a bow on it.

As it was carefully explained to me, the phone is like a bucket. The data inside the phone is like marbles in a bucket. Some marbles from calls, others from pictures, others from texts, etc. The State brought the bucket into court – and validated the bucket contents with their own witness from the phone company – Both the State and the defense then began arguing their case around the phone call marbles in the bucket – Primarily with Rachel Jeantel. But no-one challenged the bucket itself. The State authenticated the bucket and the content of the bucket during the introduction.

The defense picks up the same bucket the state hands them, and now begins to use the contents – texts and pictures – and then Nelson rules the bucket itself cannot be authenticated. It doesn’t work that way.

If the state authenticates evidence, it cannot be divided and only authentic when the state holds it, but not the defense. Flawed logic – ABSOLUTELY positioned to give such a prejudicial outcome, the appeal would result in dismissal, not retrial. Nelson gave the case away to George Zimmerman.

She could have ruled on relevance, admissibility, or other factors – but she chose the one destined to fail, “authentication”. She gave it away.

In other news, people are catching on to the Eric Holder, Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division, Community Relations Service – being the actual puppeteers behind the entire construct of the false case. To them we say “welcome to the party pal“.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; livezimmermantrial; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: Uncle Chip

Basically overruled


1,841 posted on 07/11/2013 12:22:14 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Hoodat

A tape was played during the testimony phase on which Zimmerman had given a statement that night as to what happened.

There’s also audio recordings presented of Z on the phone with the dispatcher right before T attacked him...


1,842 posted on 07/11/2013 12:22:23 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck)
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To: UCANSEE2

No, I think in hell, Bernie talks for three...


1,843 posted on 07/11/2013 12:22:25 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: Racehorse
All Zimmerman had to do . . . what I would do . . . was wait for the police.

It appears that he was waiting for the police; the operator asked him for the address so the police would know where to go; and when Zimmerman got out to check the address, he was ambushed by Trayvon.

So, once attacked, what would you do then? Still wait for the police?

1,844 posted on 07/11/2013 12:23:01 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: UCANSEE2

Somebody tell BLDR that in order to sell BS you have to first sound like you’re buying it.


1,845 posted on 07/11/2013 12:23:08 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg; don-o
That dog won't hunt.


1,846 posted on 07/11/2013 12:23:13 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: All

1,847 posted on 07/11/2013 12:23:18 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Right there he said nothing about touching gun.......he went for gun.


1,848 posted on 07/11/2013 12:23:42 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: ctdonath2

Ref your post to race, I discovered that you can’t reason with a crazy man. . .he is just now posting today on the subject. He clearly had not followed the case nor paid attention to the facts.

So, either he is an uninformed commenter or he is being deliberately acting trollish . . .or both.


1,849 posted on 07/11/2013 12:23:45 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Jeff Chandler

Heard this from many sources. At worst a hung jury.


1,850 posted on 07/11/2013 12:23:46 PM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: ctdonath2

True . . . I did not go back inside and slaughter the family.

Did the dispatcher tell Zimmerman not to follow T? What did dispatcher tell Z?

If cops were on the way . . . all Z needed to do was keep T in view. Right?


1,851 posted on 07/11/2013 12:23:51 PM PDT by Racehorse
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To: 21twelve

It’s supposedly an exception to the hearsay rule

Called the “dying declaration”....

EXCEPT, I don’t see how that’s acceptable, because the way I was taught was that in order for it to be a dying declaration, the decedent has to KNOW or reasonably believe they are about to die.

Martin had no idea.


1,852 posted on 07/11/2013 12:23:59 PM PDT by DrewsMum (If the boy was high, Zimmerman gonna fly ---Bob Charles, Twitter)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
I'd like to see MOM object and say:

"Your honor, I object to BDLR mishandling my clients gun. Tommorrow he will be acquitted and will need it immediately after acquittal".

1,853 posted on 07/11/2013 12:24:02 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Isn’t he slated to do just that?


1,854 posted on 07/11/2013 12:24:12 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: JoeProBono

Ok, that looks cartoonish.


1,855 posted on 07/11/2013 12:24:18 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: All
From following Twitter just now, there is going to be some BIG disappointment among Trayvon supporters if GZ is acquitted.

The color of the sky in their world certainly isn't blue or gray. And all it will take is one tiny spark to ignite their rage.

That said, such seems to be the goal of Obama, Holder, Sharpton et al.

1,856 posted on 07/11/2013 12:24:32 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: sunrise_sunset

WTF TV. jury taking a few notes but all eyes on state prosecutor.


1,857 posted on 07/11/2013 12:25:01 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Racehorse
All Zimmerman had to do . . . what I would do . . . was wait for the police.

While your head is being smashed on the concrete? You'd just wait for the police? Even if you could stop him from smashing your head in, you wouldn't? You'd wait for somebody else to come handle it for you?

1,858 posted on 07/11/2013 12:25:06 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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1,859 posted on 07/11/2013 12:25:36 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Somebody posted Bernie 2 and Guy 1.


1,860 posted on 07/11/2013 12:25:37 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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