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FAA will require airline pilots to have at least 1,500 flight hours
Dallas Morning News ^ | 07/10/2013 | Terry Maxon

Posted on 07/10/2013 3:26:51 PM PDT by DFG

The Federal Aviation Administration on Wednesday said it was making final a rule that says all commercial airline pilots hired by U.S. carriers will be required to have at least 1,500 hours of flight time.

The Air Line Pilots Association, which praised the new rule, said it goes into effect Aug. 1.

The FAA, in announcing that the rule will be published soon, said the new requirements were adopted in reaction to the crash of a Colgan Air airplane near Buffalo, N.Y., in 2009, in which both the captain and first officer were relatively inexperienced.

(Excerpt) Read more at aviationblog.dallasnews.com ...


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To: BfloGuy

The 1500 hour requirement allowed grandfathering of current employees for a year, so a lot of the commuters have been hiring up extra guys to get through the initial pain. In the short term it will result in lower hour pilots, but it still won’t be as bad as during a hiring boom. Back in the late nineties some commuter outfits were hiring pilots with really low hours.


21 posted on 07/10/2013 5:13:29 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Dan(9698)

“Long trips on the autopilot.”

Maybe two minutes of real flying at each end, especially on the heavies. Almost caused a 747 to plow into San Bruno Mountain on June 28, 1998. They cleared the top of the mountain by 100 ft, luckily missing the 600 ft radio towers.


22 posted on 07/10/2013 6:31:30 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: TheThirdRuffian

I am a retired USAF air traffic controller and I didn’t really think I knew what I was doing until I had about 5 years experience.


23 posted on 07/10/2013 7:04:28 PM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
I never made a coupled approach.

I figured I needed the practice.

Of coerce I was flying my own plane and made my own decisions.

24 posted on 07/10/2013 7:11:20 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: BfloGuy

” Based on what I’ve read, Colgan Air was a rather slapdash outfit; now the entire airline industry will pay.”

Sounds Like British Petroleum and how the rest of the offshore oil industry is paying for their slapdash operations now. Oh wait, just like the airlines everybody pays for the higher prices in the air and at the pump.


25 posted on 07/10/2013 7:11:38 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Sequoyah101

The latest use of bankruptcy laws as a labor cost tool has some rather disturbing results.

What happened to Comair with it being shut down and then being used as a threat to pilots at other carriers to take concessions, and at Pinnicle recently, with pay cuts tied to job security, now is being used by every other “Regional” management to attempt to slash pay of pilots across the industry, ironically in the face of a pilot shortage.

Question; does the average passenger really want the cheapest pilot that money can buy?


26 posted on 07/11/2013 2:24:55 AM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: Sweating_Bullets
The problem is that airlines & insurance companies equate HOURS with EXPERIENCE.

Hours do not mean a lot.

Experience is better.

Understanding & Wisdom are what is needed, but very difficult to quantify or document.

Think the hours spent commuting for 10 years on the I-405 in LA vs driving a season in a World Rally Championship car.

"Rally car driver"

27 posted on 07/11/2013 5:16:21 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: BwanaNdege

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q-t5fLwKZw

Better Rally video


28 posted on 07/11/2013 5:23:45 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: BwanaNdege

True, but hours and experience don’t mean a lot without being current. The longer it has been since your last hours and experience flown, the greater the loss in how sharp you are. After a long vacation of a couple weeks I can definitely tell how I am not “up to speed” until a few flights are flown.


29 posted on 07/11/2013 7:59:22 AM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: USNBandit
How about not letting guys captain that fail numerous checkrides?

That would help, but that's not what the FAA did, is it?

30 posted on 07/11/2013 1:58:48 PM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: dread78645

The Colgan captain had an inordinate number of failures throughout his career. A normal number of failures would be one on an initial CFI and maybe one other. More than that makes a trend.


31 posted on 07/11/2013 6:35:18 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit
USN >How about not letting guys captain that fail numerous checkrides?

Me >That would help, but that's not what the FAA did, is it?

USN >The Colgan captain had an inordinate number of failures throughout his career. A normal number of failures would be one on an initial CFI and maybe one other. More than that makes a trend.

Did -- or did not, the FAA order restrictions based on flight hours?

Did -- or did not, the FAA ignore the number of down-checks a pilot can accumulate?

32 posted on 07/11/2013 9:35:34 PM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: dread78645
Sorry, misunderstood what you meant by "did, is it."

You are correct. 1500 hours won't stop anything. It will make it harder to get into commercial flying.

33 posted on 07/11/2013 10:34:55 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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