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Day 21 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 9, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/09/2013 4:51:37 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 9th, is DAY #21 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday was the first full day of defense witnesses. Perhaps the most significant of the first set were the two police officers who stated Tracy Martin, Trayvon’s father, said on 2/28/12 the cries for help on the 911 calls were NOT Trayvon. Later in the day Tracy Martin took the stand and essentially said the two detectives were lying. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

What additionally strikes as important to us is the first signs of desperation from the original nucleus of the Scheme Team construct, Benjamin Crump and Daryl Parks – attorneys for the Martin family. Parks appeared on Piers Morgan show last night and the video should be watched by anyone who knows how the scheme was constructed.

We accept that Mark O’Mara is conflicted in this case, and he is trying to walk a fine line between presenting a defense to a case built on political pressure and outright fraud; Yet simultaneously avoiding exposition of both the politics and the fraud itself.

The intentionally avoided open doors exposing the fraud creates anxiety for those of us who know what is inside the room he is avoiding. Our prayers are that his passing those wide open doors is based on prudence [within an unknown strategy]. However, our fear is the hasty and politically correct avoidance might cause him to pass by the room holding the key to George Zimmerman’s ultimate ‘long-term’ freedom.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrap up with a community/LEO preparation meeting today.

(Excerpt) Read more at wftv.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: george; kangaroocourt; showtrial; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: hoosiermama

No worries — I understood. Interesting childhood!


1,921 posted on 07/09/2013 4:17:01 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: hoosiermama

1,922 posted on 07/09/2013 4:17:23 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: Eva
My first reaction to law about juries reducing the charges was that it gives juries way too much authority, beyond their capabilities.

IMHO, a jury should be allowed to come back with an verdict and sentencing range which is not one of the specific ones offered, but if either the prosecutor or defense objects, the jury should be informed of which party (or both) objected to the verdict and instructed to deliberate further. If the jury finds that the defendant is guilty, but specifies a maximum sentence that it would deem reasonable and such a proposed verdict is accepted, the judge should be forbidden from imposing any sentence beyond that. If the prosecutor objects to such a verdict, the jury would be instructed to decide whether it would rather issue a guilty verdict without such a sentencing restriction, or if--forced to make such a choice--it would rather acquit the defendant outright.

While it is true that judges are in many cases better qualified to decide sentences in a fair and consistent fashion, if the members of a jury would find that any sentence beyond a certain level would constitute cruel and unusual punishment for the particular acts of the defendant in the case before them, then no sentence beyond that level could be legitimate under the Constitution.

1,923 posted on 07/09/2013 4:18:37 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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So based upon what the judge just read there was a lot of scuffling on the grass before Jenna Lauer decided to make the call, then it took 30 seconds to connect and then the 45 seconds of screaming.

So how long was the scuffling —


1,924 posted on 07/09/2013 4:19:03 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Nervous Tick

Wonderful childhood! Going to office with dad and mom his secretary


1,925 posted on 07/09/2013 4:19:49 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: Nervous Tick

“The jury’s still out on that one”

Used that one, unfortunately it was after my wife asked me: “How is the meat loaf?”


1,926 posted on 07/09/2013 4:19:57 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Were those 14 screams all derived from the 45 second 911 call??????


1,927 posted on 07/09/2013 4:20:04 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

HUH! State’s timeline is a graphic representation of their choice in facts...........direct hit. Why can’t the defense do the same.


1,928 posted on 07/09/2013 4:20:47 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Uncle Chip

Compare it to DD s call and when she heard the wet grass!


1,929 posted on 07/09/2013 4:22:22 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: traderrob6

Surprised to learn he was gay.


1,930 posted on 07/09/2013 4:22:27 PM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: Cyber Liberty

Excellent post, Cyber. I’d not thought of West and MOM playing to the family for the time when they testified.

I noticed none of them sang the praises of Trayvon the choir boy. Wouldn’t that have opened up an opportunity for MOM to go after the school suspension for burglary tools, aggression, and dope?


1,931 posted on 07/09/2013 4:23:19 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Uncle Chip

PermaWrinkle Forehead is up...


1,932 posted on 07/09/2013 4:23:21 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: JoeProBono

1,933 posted on 07/09/2013 4:23:32 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: 101stAirborneVet

rofl

I sympathize... he DOES need brains


1,934 posted on 07/09/2013 4:24:30 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: tioga

Yes, I have that same question. The state could have done an animation. Problem is, with their case, the animation would have hurt the prosecution.


1,935 posted on 07/09/2013 4:25:02 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: tioga

Mantei steals a line from Churchill

Call it a supposition enclosed by a riddle wrapped in an enigma - something like that.

I believe Churchill used such referring to the Soviet Union - maybe


1,936 posted on 07/09/2013 4:25:05 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: 101stAirborneVet

Good grief. This attorney drones on and on. A little squeaky on the voice when he gets excited. I guess the winner of this arguement will be the last man standing.


1,937 posted on 07/09/2013 4:26:10 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: patriot08

“Surprised to learn he was gay.”

Who are you talking about, if I may be so bold.


1,938 posted on 07/09/2013 4:26:31 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Nervous Tick

Is that a “soul patch” misplaced? (on pros. forehead)


1,939 posted on 07/09/2013 4:27:05 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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The problem with being a full-of-yourself arrogant little jerk like Mantei is that eventually you’ll encounter a point in your monologue where you get lost and say Ummmm... and fumble in your notes...

...and you get no slack from the audience because you ARE an arrogant little jerk.


1,940 posted on 07/09/2013 4:27:30 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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