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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No way this animation should be allowed - it’s pure speculation. Would they allow the prosecution to do the same? If Zimmerman is on his back, and his holster is in his back waistband, how did Martin know it was there and reach for it? How could Martin do that if he was beating Zimmerman’s head into the ground and holding Zimmerman’s mouth and nose at the same time? How can they allow Martin’s blood tox admitted while Zimmerman wasn’t even tested? Why don’t they present Zimmerman’s past (restraining orders, assault on LEO)?


7 posted on 07/08/2013 7:01:46 PM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer

The restraining order was a two-way, mutual agreement and the “assault” never led to a conviction, IIRC. I thought courts had ruled in the past that arrests and convictions were two different things and as a rule, arrests were to be kept out of court cases as “previous bad acts” or did I misunderstand that?


8 posted on 07/08/2013 7:06:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: stormer

>> No way this animation should be allowed - it’s pure speculation.

Not speculation — it’s an animation of what Zimmerman said happened.


11 posted on 07/08/2013 7:09:39 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: stormer
If Zimmerman is on his back, and his holster is in his back waistband,...

Who said it was in the back?

How could Martin do that if he was beating Zimmerman’s head into the ground and holding Zimmerman’s mouth and nose at the same time?

Who said he did them at the same time?

Do you work for MSNBC?

12 posted on 07/08/2013 7:11:01 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: stormer

The judge is obviously a shill for Zimmerman.


13 posted on 07/08/2013 7:11:50 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: stormer

The State has been “speculating” in this entire trial.
It should be admitted and the jury can decide if is credible or not credible.
That’s what jury’s do.


14 posted on 07/08/2013 7:14:02 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: stormer
If Zimmerman is on his back, and his holster is in his back waistband, how did Martin know it was there and reach for it?

Zimmerman described, from the very beginning, that his holster was worn on the right side of his body.

How could Martin do that if he was beating Zimmerman’s head into the ground and holding Zimmerman’s mouth and nose at the same time?

I'm not aware of any report of Martin reaching for the pistol while simultaneously covering Zimmerman's nose and mouth; rather, Zimmerman reported that Martin reached for the gun afterward.

Why don’t they present Zimmerman’s past (restraining orders, assault on LEO)?

Restraining orders are irrelevant. People get restraining orders all the time, they are not prima facia evidence of anything, nor does their existence have any probative value. I believe the "assault on an officer" was ultimately dropped and, from what I read of that case, it was pretty ridiculous.

16 posted on 07/08/2013 7:15:23 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: stormer

Do you like NASCAR?


24 posted on 07/08/2013 7:25:43 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: stormer
No way this animation should be allowed...

I think the animation could be very instructive for the jury, especially if it showed Trayvon, having just acquired two of the ingredients he needed to brew up his batch of "lean", slinking through the neighborhood looking for open bathroom windows where he might be able to slip in and steal the final ingredient, Robitussin with codeine.

It was that suspicious behavior that caught Zimmerman's attention, and Zimmerman was, after all, on patrol because the apartment residents had formed a neighborhood watch after the complex had suffered a rash of burglaries.

27 posted on 07/08/2013 7:26:57 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: stormer

it is no different than an expert drawing on a marker board.

The prosecution will have the opportunity to cross and take it apart if they can. Also, they knew about it BEFORE the trial started.


36 posted on 07/08/2013 7:40:36 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: stormer

I hate it when people are proven wrong......testimony has already been given that GZ blood tests were negative for alcohol and drugs. Instead of swimming upstream, think of just this........what was George Zimmermans state of mind when he resorted to self-defense and what were Trayvon Martins actions that caused GZ to be in that state of mind.


40 posted on 07/08/2013 7:45:46 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: stormer

“No way this animation should be allowed - it’s pure speculation.”

I disagree. The defense’s job is suppose to demonstrate that the thing “could” have gone down differently than the prosecution alleges. If there is another explanation for what happened, the jury not only needs to consider it, but it helps create reasonable doubt.

I’m not a lawyer, but if my recollection is that if another reasonable explanation exists for what happened, the defendant must be found innocent.


54 posted on 07/08/2013 8:32:59 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: stormer

The defense should hope the prosecution would enter Zimmerman’s past. It opens the door to have Martin’s past presented.


62 posted on 07/08/2013 9:50:31 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama -> Fredo smart)
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To: stormer

I guess we’ll have to watch the animation to see if any of your speculations about how the incident took place have any bearing on the defense’s version of events that night.


71 posted on 07/09/2013 7:38:24 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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