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To: caww

What bothers me is the exuberance I see on this thread that “happy days are here again.” The fact is that Western interest are served only by brutal repression over ME countries. Now, with skillful diplomacy, over time, that brutality can be ameliorated.

This is how it always worked before Jimmy Carter. Every single President since this has enabled policy that goes against American self interest.

If this “not a coup” restores the Mubarak type of governance, that is good for America. But, it’s going to be a hard and bloody road.

I hope my thoughts are not taken as any type of brief for the MB. That is not my point. I am a big fan of “consent of the governed.” I have serious doubt that this can be exported or adopted in that part of the world. Submission to the governor is their mindset - across the board.


1,557 posted on 07/27/2013 9:48:59 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o; MestaMachine; melancholy; thouworm
The exuberance of the Egyptians needs to be seen DON, for them ousting Morsi was refusing to submit to the direction he was taking the country..which was rule under Shariah Law....
I would be just as excited if OBOZO was gone...no doubt about that!

The history of this continued revolution part two basically, can be seen all the way back to it's beginning before the marches. The people mounted up with petitions to oust him...the administration had already ignored Morsi and some representatives had walked out..... The military knew the Sinai was getting out of control and had already bypassed Morsi and began to deal with the border area with Israels approval, which the military sought beforehand. All this and more BEFORE the marches. Those are undisputed facts.

MBS are not interested in diplomacy as we see now....though the current Egyptian administration has made numerous attempts for inclusiveness of the Brotherhood ..they continue to refuse and rebuke the obvious. Their “standard” means of defense is, and always will be, when they have lost, bloodbaths in one form or another, threats and violence as much to their own as to those they oppose.

All nations have for centuries fought for what they wanted their nation and administration to be...Egypt is no different. But IMO I do not think Egypt will survive without the Brotherhood going back underground as it had for so many years prior...better would be it's elimination altogether.

I agree that Egypt cannot be as the US might think they should be...and no reason why this needs to be so. Already the other Arab countries have stepped up monetarily to fill in the revenue gap...and this BTW was clearly promised long before the marches began should the US back off with their monetary support.

Mubarak was too long at the head of Egypt and this made him into the tyrant he became....but that said.. he did know how to keep the brotherhood at bay.

As for our interests...well ObOZO has made it clear he plays a different drum then our leaders prior...no telling what he will do next...but the man likes to play the game when it suits him and no more than that.

It would be great if all nations could operate “with the consent of the governed”...but as long as there are those who pant after power and control that will not be possible...and as long as elections can be and are hijacked, and corruption of the voting methods....it's now more who can cheat and bribe the most..wins....to every-ones loss.

1,561 posted on 07/27/2013 10:22:40 AM PDT by caww
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