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Live Thread: Egypt Revolution 2.1 The Ikwhan Strikes Back: Deadly "Day of Rejection"
Various | Friday, July 5, 2013 | Kristinn

Posted on 07/05/2013 2:20:03 PM PDT by kristinn

USA Today reports from Cairo at least 10 killed, hundreds wounded in Egypt today on the Muslim Brotherhood's (Ikwhan) "Day of Rejection" of the Egyptian military's removal of President Morsi from office this week after a popular uprising.


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Meanwhile, the U.S. State Department admitted Secretary of State John Kerry was indeed on his yacht in Nantucket on Wednesday as the revolution in Egypt succeeded:

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(Live Thread) Egypt: American Killed During Violent Clashes (Egypt about to blow up)

Live Thread: Egypt Revolution 2.0


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: exit82

I don’t know.


5,181 posted on 11/28/2013 8:54:33 AM PST by melancholy
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To: melancholy

Useful idiot or Just an Idiot?


5,182 posted on 11/28/2013 8:55:31 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: melancholy

Did you try the 2nd link? My video software does not handle HTML5.


5,183 posted on 11/28/2013 8:57:28 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

A very useful idiot!

Now you can see who’s holding his strings; Iranian-born ValJar!


5,184 posted on 11/28/2013 8:59:24 AM PST by melancholy
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To: Texas Fossil; MestaMachine; caww

It opened on a second try.

The one who was involved in the conversation sounds like an Egyptian delivering talking points.

Apart from religious rhetoric, which the crowd didn’t pay attention or react to, one of the things he said was that “we’re not here for Egypt only, we’re here for the third world countries!”

This is when one of the crowd demanded to know who the bastard is and the bastard was incensed and shouted “it’s none of your business.

His buddies walked away without facial reaction and that tells me he spoke no Arabic and didn’t want to get caught. He looked more of an Afghan or a Pakistani, just a guess.


5,185 posted on 11/28/2013 9:23:38 AM PST by melancholy
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To: melancholy

Thanks, my friend who called this to my attention was hoping someone would recognize who they were.

They are trying to put things together in Egypt, but this is all connected with Libya and Obozo.


5,186 posted on 11/28/2013 12:55:06 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil; All

Sent to the WH and circulating in Egypt:

Subject: Obama’s letter

To: president@whitehouse.gov

Dear Mr Obama

I am writing you this note because I am an Egyptian who is a dedicated observer of history and would like to have your opinion on the following subject :

We all know that President Abraham Lincoln was assassinated by John Wilkes Booth in 1865 and who, after cold-bloodedly shooting Lincoln in the back of the head , shouted “sic semper tyrannis” (latin for:”Thus always to tyrants” attributed to Brutus at Caesars assassination). Wilkes was cornered 12 days later and killed and 8 of his fellow conspirators were arrested , 4 of which were hanged . President Lincoln was succeeded by his vice-president Andrew Johnson.

Now let us assume for arguments’ sake that you , Mr President were in Andrew Johnson’s place :

Would you , after your inauguration , pardon Booth’s fellow conspirators ? Would you invite them to join you in the presidential stand to attend the parade of one of your most important national and military holidays (which also coincides with the day Lincoln was assassinated )? Would you purposely omit inviting Lincolns’ family ? Would purposely snub the army and omit inviting their leaders to attend ?At this same ceremony, would you also invite an avowed terrorist who openly boasts of having shot and killed 116 unarmed soldiers in cold blood? Would you be surprised if a majority of your fellow citizens did not approve of you and wanted to impeach you and remove you from office ? How do you think other world leaders will judge you?

Mohamed Morsi (member of the Moslem Brotherhood) is the president who committed all these atrocities , the conspirators (pardoned by Morsi, also members of the Moslem Brotherhood) were the ones who assassinated President Anwar Sadat , the national holiday was October 6th 2012 , Assem AbdelMaged ( pardoned by Morsi and also member of the MB) is the terrorist who murdered 116 unarmed soldiers . Morsi also pardoned 300 Jihadists imprisoned in Egyptian jails ,some of whom had been sentenced to death.

Mr Obama , I will not question your administrations’ questionable (and extremely naïve) unwavering support of the Moslem Brotherhood – although this relationship resembles more akin to a deal between the heads of mafia families rather than an alliance in world politics . I will not question whether your intelligence services know what the Moslem Brotherhood is really about ,their strategy, their goals , their fascist and criminal 80 year past drenched in the blood of political assassinations – 9/11, Ossama ben Laden , Omar Abdelrahman, AlQaeda , Hamas , and countless other terrorist organizations are all different sides of the same coin . Nor will I question whether you (your administration and intelligence services) have noticed that many of the banners that the pro-Morsi demonstrators hold are the same as the banners held by AlQaeda in Afghanistan , Syria ,Pakistan, Yemen etc . Nor will I question how you could give your unlimited financial and political backing to a regime whose military arm is Hamas (who the US considers as a terrorist organization)? Nor will I question whether you agree that our world would have been a better place if (in the 1930’s) the German people had copied the actions taken by the Egyptians and removed their president (Reichsfuhrer ) who was incidentally also “democratically “ elected - wouldn’t it have prevented the Holocaust, saved many tens of millions lives lost in the war, and spared the untold misery of all the occupied nations?

Many of us in Egypt used to consider the US as the champion of the free world for freedom , justice and human rights and yet you have chosen to tarnish this image by backing the openly fascist regime of Mohamed Morsi who was leading Egypt and the Arab world to certain destruction .What happened in Egypt was a popular revolution and could never be described as a military coup by any stretch of the imagination . I suggest you have your intelligence agency/ies compare the awesome size of the Egyptian anti-Morsi demonstrations of June 30th and July 3rd 2013 with the (very) small pro-Morsi ones on Google earth. Unbiased western observers estimate the anti-Morsi protesters to be between 25 – 30 million and describe it as the biggest protest in history .

Now, if that doesn’t qualify as a revolution, I don’t know what does!

Sincerely
Raouf Mishriki
Cairo – Egypt
Email : raoufmishriki@gmail.com

P.S.: The above is by no means a compilation of the innumerable crimes committed by Mohamed Morsi against the Egyptian people – we will leave that up to the courts of law to decide.


5,187 posted on 12/02/2013 5:39:18 AM PST by melancholy
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To: melancholy

Thanks very much for post.


5,188 posted on 12/02/2013 6:00:39 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: caww; melancholy; MestaMachine
Egypt begins revoking citizenship of Hamas leaders
5,189 posted on 12/02/2013 11:43:31 AM PST by thouworm
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To: thouworm; MestaMachine; Texas Fossil; All

Thanks for your posts.

I received the following letter to the NYT. I’m copying it as is.

“Dear Ms Abramson
Executive Editor
New York Times

The NYT is devoting a lot of energy and space criticizing the will of the vast majority of the Egyptian people whilst you had not one editorial criticizing the Brotherhood when they

- Banned 25,000 Egyptians from traveling abroad.

- Pardoned 3500 AlQaeda operatives and allowed them safe passage to Egypt.

- Pardoned 13000 convicted criminals and terrorists including the brother of Ayman Al Zawahry the leader of AlQaeda

- Suspended the constitution and us.urped the executive and legislative powers.

- Blackmailed 300 businessmen to pay or have their businesses taken by Brotherhood supporters.

- Gave 6000 Hamas operatives Egyptian nationality by Morsi decree.

- Killed many young Egyptian protesters outside the Morsi presidential palace by Brotherhood thugs.

- Burned and attacked 80 Churches.

- Conspired in the killing of over 40 Egyptian soldiers in Sinai.

On the other hand, you make up and put forward incorrect perceptions:

- The Egyptian government is people supported not military backed.

- 30 million Egyptian’s supported Morsi’s removal and the installing of a technocratic government.

- The resistance of Morsi supporters is according to US law is “terrorist activity”.

- Violence, destruction of public and private property, inciting hate and murder, carrying weapons plus killing innocent people and security forces is not peaceful protests.

- For two and a half years we have had 9 violent protests a day on average.

- The only peaceful protests were 30 June to July 3rd asking for the Morsi removal.

- Public demonstrations are allowed according to Egyptian Law which is more flexible than US law. In Egypt you must notify, in the US you need permission to demonstrate, in the US overnight protests are banned.

Why are you criticizing Egypt for what is kosher in the US?

The secular left that you mention in your op-ed, are movements that were funded by the US (IRI, NDI and Freedom House) and were anti Mubarak, supporting Brotherhood, then anti Brotherhood and now anti present government. They are young die-hards US launched that have no agenda except to oppose under the guise of civil activity. Instead of illegal protesting they should create a political party and run for elections.

No one should challenge the law. Otherwise we have no state. Your President Theodore Roosevelt said “Anarchy is terror - Anarchy is chaos - Anarchy is a crime against the whole human race and all mankind should band against anarchists”.

Why are you legitimizing Brotherhood anarchy? What is your agenda?

When a women with a child in her car - unarmed - was perceived to challenge your laws in Washington DC your police shot her 14 times dead. What do you call that? Reverse terrorism?

Washington needs to wake up and see that Egypt is battling terrorism. Please read your definition of terrorism and see if it applies to the Brotherhood. DO YOU HAVE THE COURAGE TO DO THAT?

The first statement out of Morsi’s mouth when he became President was asking from the US for the release of the terrorist Omar Abdul Rahman jailed in NY. Have you not asked yourself why?

Egypt a nation of 7,000 years does not get “punished”. Egypt is a proud nation that will battle terrorism in its own way (you had your Gitmo and Patriot Act).

Egypt will not repeat the Mubarak mistakes. Mubarak allowed 88 members of the Brotherhood to be members of Parliament. He allowed them to participate whilst their agenda was one of terror and outright fascism in the name of religion. Sadat allowed the Brotherhood to participate in the political arena and they killed him.

We will not allow that to happen again. We will move towards real democracy based on law and order, stability and security.

American policy is for America to decide but misinformed reporting like yours should not influence it.

Salwa M.
Ahmed AlMasri
Mona Badran
Mohsen Abdel Fattah
Tarek Farid
Maged Yacoub
Mohamed Moftah
Ahmed Elmoula
Hany Mashaat
Fadia H Alhousainy
Nadia Abdel Aleem
Reem Fanous
Mohamed Samir
Adel Fahmy
Ayman and Samira Tantawy
Lamia Sheta and family”


5,190 posted on 12/03/2013 4:35:42 AM PST by melancholy
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To: melancholy

Thanks. The battle lines become clearer every passing day.

Those who love Freedom must Stand Together to Defeat Global Totalitarianism.


5,191 posted on 12/03/2013 6:14:57 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil; MestaMachine; thouworm; caww; maggief; LucyT; azishot; All

For the record:

In this old (08/22/13) article, THE CHOICE IN EGYPT, Charles Krauthammer correctly analyzed the Egyptian situation and what policy we should pursuit.

“The choice is binary: the country will be ruled by the Muslim Brotherhood or by the military.”

“Gen. Abdel Fatah al-Sissi seems to have calculated that he didn’t have three years, that by then there would be no elections — as in Gaza, where the Palestinian wing of the Brotherhood, Hamas, elected in 2006, established a one-man-one-vote-one-time dictatorship.”

This article, supported by many URLs, is a reminder of the choices that the American administrations had to make many times in the past. The choices between two evils were mostly between communist and military rules.

Since Krauthammer WOULD/WILL NOT say it, I will!

IMO, the choice between the MB rule and military rule is a choice between evil and bad, respectively. The only difference today is the administration making the choice.

There is a major difference in policy between all the past AMERICAN administrations combined and the current ANTI-AMERICAN, ISLAMOFASCIST administration, in domestic and foreign policy.

Handing the Middle East to the MB and going against our traditional allies is the hallmark of this administration. So far, 0b0z0ids tried and failed in Egypt and they are on their way to lose in Syria, thank God!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-the-choice-in-egypt/2013/08/22/eb9350da-0b5b-11e3-8974-f97ab3b3c677_story.html


5,192 posted on 12/13/2013 7:19:09 AM PST by melancholy
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Egyptian Intelligence Exposed Obama’s Administration Espionage Case With Muslim Brotherhood

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3101473/posts

Long article, a lot of dots to help illuminate the players in the game.

I would like your opinion on how it might be used.


5,193 posted on 12/13/2013 10:00:12 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil; kristinn; MestaMachine; caww; maggief; thouworm; LucyT; azishot; All
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all.

First time in 112 years. From Egypt with snow!

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5,194 posted on 12/24/2013 9:47:25 AM PST by melancholy
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To: melancholy

Those are some amazing photos, Mel. Thanks. White Christmas in Egypt. Wow.
Merry Christmas and have a great New Year!


5,195 posted on 12/24/2013 9:52:41 AM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: melancholy

Seriously? Not a photo shop? Just WOW! Beautiful!!

Merry Christmas!


5,196 posted on 12/24/2013 10:21:36 AM PST by azishot (Merry Christmas to all....)
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To: MestaMachine

Thank you, dear.

As always, prayers for you and your precious daughter. May God ease your pain and protect you and yours.


5,197 posted on 12/24/2013 10:55:43 AM PST by melancholy
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To: azishot

I would say that the camel and sled in sprinkling snow is a photoshop.

Merry Christmas to you and yours.


5,198 posted on 12/24/2013 10:59:35 AM PST by melancholy
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To: melancholy

Merry Christmas my FRiend.


5,199 posted on 12/24/2013 1:37:57 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil; kristinn; MestaMachine; maggief; thouworm; caww; LucyT; azishot; All
Ping....

Egypt declares Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist group

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3105207/posts

After 15 were killed and over 134 injured in Mansura by a car bomb yesterday.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/90037/Egypt/Politics-/UPDATE-Egypt-govt-declares-Muslim-Brotherhood-terr.aspx

http://almogaz.com/news/politics/2013/12/24/1251617

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Egyptian Catholics celebrate Christmas. I'm afraid that killing Christians, mainly Copts, will continue till the Coptic Christmas on jan, 7.

Now, security forces will shoot the bearded bastards down and ask questions later.

KILL THEM ALL!

5,200 posted on 12/25/2013 10:05:45 AM PST by melancholy
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