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Live Thread: Egypt Revolution 2.1 The Ikwhan Strikes Back: Deadly "Day of Rejection"
Various | Friday, July 5, 2013 | Kristinn

Posted on 07/05/2013 2:20:03 PM PDT by kristinn

USA Today reports from Cairo at least 10 killed, hundreds wounded in Egypt today on the Muslim Brotherhood's (Ikwhan) "Day of Rejection" of the Egyptian military's removal of President Morsi from office this week after a popular uprising.


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Meanwhile, the U.S. State Department admitted Secretary of State John Kerry was indeed on his yacht in Nantucket on Wednesday as the revolution in Egypt succeeded:

CBS News photo via Twitter

(Live Thread) Egypt: American Killed During Violent Clashes (Egypt about to blow up)

Live Thread: Egypt Revolution 2.0


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arabspring; badie; badiethatsallfolks; comingforthbynight; egypt; egyptcoup; egyptlive; israel; johnkerry; kerry; leadingfrombehind; liveegypt; liveegyptthread; mohamedbadie; mohammedbadie; muslimbrotherhood; russia; secretaryofstate; terrorism; threatmatrix; truthaboutegypt; waronterror
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To: caww
In USA either Los Angeles or NYC.....
4,881 posted on 08/22/2013 10:32:08 PM PDT by caww
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4,882 posted on 08/22/2013 10:34:24 PM PDT by caww
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4,883 posted on 08/22/2013 10:36:30 PM PDT by caww
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4,884 posted on 08/22/2013 10:40:38 PM PDT by caww
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4,885 posted on 08/22/2013 10:45:24 PM PDT by caww
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You know, most people look at us rednecks and think we are a little rowdy at times, Bible thumpers at other times, but generally harmless and stupid.
Most people can’t tell the difference between a normal beehive and a killer bee hive until you pi$$ one of them off.
It’s like that.


4,886 posted on 08/22/2013 11:02:25 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: caww
9:22 Egypt time....Egypt braces for Bortherhoods 'Martyrs Friday'

Egypt braces for Brotherhoods "Ma

4,887 posted on 08/22/2013 11:05:45 PM PDT by caww
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To: melancholy; MestaMachine
Al-jazzera Station Office torched in Cairo!....


4,888 posted on 08/22/2013 11:13:36 PM PDT by caww
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Aljazzera office torched..video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xc2Mo8Zjf0


4,889 posted on 08/22/2013 11:15:50 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

When? Just now? I am kind if manic tonight so catching up with everything I should have been doing while I was feeling sorry for myself.


4,890 posted on 08/22/2013 11:24:11 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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ROTFLOL...I needed to laugh....and you’re right...am going to hit the sack now...

On the Islam in America concern....not going to let it eat me up by any means...little I can do to stop it myself....doesn’t mean I can’t hope somebody in their right mind that can will surface!

Night Mesta...do sleep well as possible...think of you so often...

CAW


4,891 posted on 08/22/2013 11:29:56 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Nighty night.


4,892 posted on 08/22/2013 11:43:41 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: caww; Spaulding; melancholy; maggief; penelopesire; thouworm

I hope the adults on this thread don’t mind that I post this. It really explains some things IMHO relevant to why jihadis are supported by our government and ties in the eligibility thing in a way that makes sense. We can all understand why 0bastard supports them. But why is no one in Congress or the Senate ever saying “boo” on any topic about Islam? I think his comment is so important I keep copying it here and there. Yet another courtesy ping to Spaulding. (Sorry for so many!)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3057118/posts?page=114#114

Someone asked: John McCain who was born in the Canal Zone. That was resolved by noting that the Canal Zone was a US territory at the time McCain was born.?

Spaulding: Actually, Megan, you have been led to believe that McCain was eligible, and that was the plan, but McCain’s ineligibility was explained by Dem law professor from the U of Arizona, Gabriel Chin, and paraded in the WaPo and NYT until Obama became the candidate in 2008, With Obama running McCain’s ineligibility provided cover and neither candidate was vetted. Even Calero, a non-citizen, ran in many states.

The technicality had to do with “sovereign territory”. Only Congress can designate sovereign territory, and does it explicitly for each case other than the obvious embassies and consular offices. They hadn’t yet designated the Canal Zone sovereign territory when McCain was born, and finally did so in 1937, the year after McCain was born. We often find the use of technicalities insufferable, but that is our law.

There could have been, and should have been an amendment extending Article II Section 1 for children of military citizens. The Democrats understood that and Senator Obama and campaign co-chair McCaskill sponsored Senate Bill 2678, the ‘‘Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act’’ in February 2008. But it failed to pass.

Ted Cruz fails eligibility for the same reason Obama told us, knowing that few would understand, that he is a ‘naturalized citizen’. Obama said “I am a native-born citizen of the U.S. That is the language of the 14th amendment. American Indians were native-born, and not made citizens. U.S. code based upon the 14th Amendment, a naturalization amendment, made Obama and Cruz, citizens at birth, because their mothers were citizens, but could not make them natural born citizens, as Wong Kim Ark resolved. The 14th Amendment using Article 1 Section 8, Congress’ authority to create “An Uniform Rule for Naturalization”. The 14th Amendment’s author made it absolutely clear that his bill (S61) did not touch natural born citizenship, nor did it mention it. Here is what Congressman John Bingham said to the House in 1866:

“I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen….,/blockquote”

Ted Cruz is “entitled” to U.S. Citizenship, as is Obama, but neither is a natural born citizen. Republicans seem to have a preference for naturalized citizens in the oval office, beginning with McCain, then Jindal, then Haley, then Rubio and now Cruz. Why do you think that is, with seasoned veterans like Suzanne Martinez, Sarah Palin, Alan West, Jim Dement, Louis Gomert, Michelle Bachmann..., all natural born citizens? Could it be the damage to the brand when honest discussion reveals that they traded McCain’s ineligibility for silence about Obama’s honest admission to having been naturalized?

We know about McCain, but could Rubio and Jindal, and now Cruz, be more malleable when special favors are required for friends of the mainstream republicans. Who would be more likely to consent to continue supporting the Muslim Brotherhood that McCain is working to return to power in Egypt, Rubio or Cruz, or Allen West, who fought the Muslim Brotherhood? With a Muslim Brother as Director of the CIA, and Muslim Sister as senior aide to Sec. of State Hillary, and Muslim Brother sponsor, Grover Norquist controlling lobbying plums to “Conservatives”, who would Republicans find easier to work with, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, or Michelle Bachmann, who was savaged by McCain and Graham for suggesting an investigation into Huma’s lifelong association with the Muslim Brotherhood?

Mobs and massive media suppression of ‘public opinion’ do not amend the Constitution in a constitutional republic. Cruz has played cute with questions about eligibility, another Harvard Law grad who says he doesn’t know the law and will leave it to the (corrupt) courts to decide. Alwaleed bin-Talal ‘donated twenty million dollars to Harvard just about as Barack was admitted. Look at control over our economy the Saudi Family possess, using Obama to block the Keystone pipeline and fund hundreds of complete boondoggles like Solyndra, and our money to keep major Saudi investments afloat, Citibank, GE, Google, Cisco, and News Corp (Fox and WSJ), ... Levin, whose reputation is based upon knowing the law, but who blatantly cited a repealed statute, the 1790 Naturalization Act, the same ploy used by Larry Tribe for Obama’s stage show, Senate Res. 511, April 2008, to provide the media with talking points covering McCain’s ineligibility to hide his own. The 1790 Act was repealed in 1795, a fact both Tribe and Levin failed to mention. We must find legislators, executives and judges who will know, as well as preserve, protect and defend the Constitution.


4,893 posted on 08/22/2013 11:45:59 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20130823/PC1001/130829762/1021/military-government-is-the-lesser-of-egypt-x2019-s-evils&source=RSShttp://www.postandcourier.com/article/20130823/PC1001/130829762/1021/military-government-is-the-lesser-of-egypt-x2019-s-evils&source=RSS

Military government is the lesser of Egypt’s evils

BY CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER
Posted: Friday, August 23, 2013


4,894 posted on 08/23/2013 1:26:56 AM PDT by maggief
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/23/politics/obama-cnn-new-day-interview/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Obama tells CNN key decisions nearing on Syria, Egypt
By Alan Silverleib, CNN
updated 6:37 AM EDT, Fri August 23, 2013

(CNN) — The time is nearing for a potentially definitive U.S. response to alleged Syrian government atrocities and an increasingly violent military crackdown in Egypt, President Barack Obama said in an exclusive interview broadcast Friday on CNN’s “New Day.”

The U.S. remains “one indispensable nation” in the volatile Middle East and elsewhere, Obama told “New Day” anchor Chris Cuomo.

“We have to think through strategically what’s going to be in our long term national interests.”

Asked by Cuomo whether the U.S. government is now facing a “more abbreviated time frame” on key decisions in Egypt and Syria, Obama repeatedly gave a one-word response: yes.

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Asked about claims by anti-regime activists in Syria that Bashar al-Assad’s government used chemical weapons in an attack that was said to have killed more than 1,300 people, Obama responded that officials are “right now gathering information” and that “what we’ve seen indicates that this is clearly a big event of grave concern.”

“It is very troublesome,” the president stressed.

Obama said U.S. officials are pushing “to prompt better action” from the United Nations, and are calling on the Syrian government to allow an investigation of the site of the alleged attack outside Damascus.”I am sympathetic to Senator McCain’s passion for helping people work through what is an extraordinarily difficult and heartbreaking situation, both in Syria and in Egypt,” Obama replied.

“But what I think the American people also expect me to do as president is to think through what we do from the perspective of what is in our long term national interests.”

Obama warned against getting “mired in very difficult situations ... (and) being drawn into very expensive, difficult, costly interventions that actually breed more resentment in the region.”

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“My sense ... with Egypt is that the aid itself may not reverse what the interim government does,” Obama said. “But I think what most Americans would say is that we have to be very careful about being seen as aiding and abetting actions that we think run contrary to our values and our ideals.”

The president said the administration is currently “doing a full evaluation of the U.S.-Egyptian relationship,” and that there is “no doubt that we can’t return to business as usual, given what’s happened.”

“There was a space right after Mr. Morsy was removed in which we did a lot of heavy lifting and a lot of diplomatic work to try to encourage the military to move in a path of reconciliation,” the president added. But “they did not take that opportunity.”

(snip)

FULL TRANSCRIPT

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/23/politics/barack-obama-new-day-interview-transcript/index.html


4,895 posted on 08/23/2013 4:53:06 AM PDT by maggief
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Agence France-Presse @AFP 14m

#BREAKING Britain believes Syria regime behind chemical weapons attack: Hague

Agence France-Presse @AFP 19m

#BREAKING Russia says Syria rebels preventing objective probe of chemical attack claims

Agence France-Presse @AFP 21m

#BREAKING Russia slams ‘unacceptable’ calls in Europe to use force in Syria

Agence France-Presse @AFP 39m

#UPDATE Obama says Syria chemical attack claim ‘a big event’ http://u.afp.com/4GC

Agence France-Presse @AFP 1h

#BREAKING Powerful explosion in centre of Lebanon’s Tripoli: AFP
Expand

Agence France-Presse @AFP 2h

Israel strikes Lebanon after rocket attack http://u.afp.com/4Gm

Agence France-Presse @AFP 2h

Russia urges Syria to cooperate on chemical weapons probe


4,896 posted on 08/23/2013 4:59:16 AM PDT by maggief
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http://english.ahram.org.eg/Index.aspx

13:39 Apache’s Egypt quandary symbolizes tough business call
12:47 Israel strikes Lebanon after rocket attack
12:43 Boat with 140 Egyptian, Syrian refugees lands in Italy
10:30 Syria chemical attack would be ‘crime against humanity’: Ban

http://www.aljazeera.com

Deaths after blasts in Lebanon’s Tripoli
At least 12 killed and 25 wounded after blasts target mosques as worshippers were exiting prayers in northern city.

Russia backs UN probe of Syria attack
Moscow urges Syrian government to cooperate with UN experts, and calls on rebels to ensure access to site.

Israel bombs Lebanon in retaliatory attack
Air strike hits target south of capital Beirut in response to four rockets earlier fired from Lebanon towards Israel.

http://rt.com/news/

Breaking news

Materials blaming Syrian gov for chemical attack prepared in advance - Russia


4,897 posted on 08/23/2013 5:06:57 AM PDT by maggief
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Bloody Friday in Tripoli #Lebanon Two explosions near mosques. People were leaving after Friday prayers. pic.twitter.com/Xl6j30hr3f


4,898 posted on 08/23/2013 5:09:24 AM PDT by maggief
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http://rt.com/news/uk-middle-east-surveillance-873/

Snowden leaks: UK operates secret Middle East web surveillance base

EXCERPT

The UK’s main concern is that the location of the secret Middle East web intelligence base will become known in the public domain, according to the newspaper.

The base is part of a larger US$1.5 billion surveillance project code-named “Tempora,” whose overall goal of global interception of digital communications was revealed earlier though Snowden’s leaked documents.

The Middle East base was created after a warrant was signed by then Foreign Secretary David Miliband. It gave permission to the GCHQ to monitor, store, and analyze data that passed through the fiber-optic cables that link up the internet around the world.


4,899 posted on 08/23/2013 5:15:28 AM PDT by maggief
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/23/paul-at-last-common-sense-about-egyptian-aid/

PAUL: At last, common sense about Egyptian aid

Distinguishing friend from foe must precede further armament

By Sen. Rand Paul


4,900 posted on 08/23/2013 5:19:57 AM PDT by maggief
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