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Day 18 (Week #4) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 3, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/03/2013 5:16:54 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

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To: Kansas58
"Actually, George Zimmerman has a Black Great Grandfather, according to the stuff I have read."

Interesting...wonder if that would be something for the DNA fella' to check on, what with his quadrillions, etc.

1,741 posted on 07/04/2013 8:17:02 AM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: XenaLee
"I hope I’m wrong."

Hope I'm wrong too but Zimmerman does look like the designated sacrificial goat.

1,742 posted on 07/04/2013 8:19:45 AM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
"Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil?"

Loved it! May watch today!

1,743 posted on 07/04/2013 8:21:39 AM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: hummingbird

I was referring to HLN channel’s “pause” use whenever there is a recess or sidebar conference with the judge.

On live feed internet, you can at least see the sidebars (huddle with the judge) as they begin and as they end. I just wish I could be a fly on that desk and know what the hell they’re saying...lol.


1,744 posted on 07/04/2013 8:24:45 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: Cyber Liberty
"Did you catch the Skype testimony video?"

No, I didn't!!! Who was on Skype? Why did they use Skype; isn't "go to my meeting" (something like that) or even a controlled satellite transmission much better and more secure?

Next time, maybe Dixie Cups and a string....

1,745 posted on 07/04/2013 8:34:48 AM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: hummingbird

One of MOMs questions to officer who collected evidence. We haven’t heard the last of it.
Maybe was Z s DNA on TM hands. They didn’t check is shotty police work


1,746 posted on 07/04/2013 8:35:46 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: BobinIL
Her profile looks like a tropical fish.

She needs fire-arms training...and a nosejob...and a chin implant...and probably some other things.

1,747 posted on 07/04/2013 8:39:13 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Then they put TM's wet shirt in plastic and everything got contaminated.

And of course the EMT wiped all of TM's DNA off GZ's face when they treated him...twice..

1,748 posted on 07/04/2013 8:45:25 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Fresh Wind
"Who knows? We now know how sloppy the "crime" scene investigation by the SPD actually was. We also know that there was evidence of grass (either stains or blades of grass) on GZ's back. Perhaps this issue will be raised during the defense presentation. "

Hope so, but Jabba the Hut will probably immediately overrule and sanction defense.

She's all kind of crazy like that!

1,749 posted on 07/04/2013 8:48:20 AM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: Uncle Chip

IIRC ray pulled up his pants in the story after pushing downward to get change out of his pocket. I think Tray had on white sneaks...Probably grass stains on the toes from kneeling. But I don’t think there’s any doubt that Tray was on top.


1,750 posted on 07/04/2013 8:48:30 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: XenaLee
"I was referring to HLN channel’s “pause” use whenever there is a recess or sidebar conference with the judge."

I suspected I was in over my head and I was right! "Sustained!"

"I just wish I could be a fly on that desk and know what the hell they’re saying...lol."

You and me, too. Can't read their lips in that setting. Wonder if judge's lips can be read.

Lip reading is a lost art!

1,751 posted on 07/04/2013 9:00:01 AM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: hummingbird
Loved it! May watch today!

Ha! Knew it when you said they had to bag the hands at the scene (they never bagged them at all in Sanford). I wonder if any of the birds on the Jury ever saw MITGOGAE?

Want to watch it? Same here. It'd make a pleasant surprise for my baby after we finish watching the Diamondbacks lose a game...she's sleeping in, and I need to go out and put up the flags. Game's in an hour.

(Good to see you finally got caught up! You were hundreds of posts behind when I hit he sack last night!)

1,752 posted on 07/04/2013 9:00:54 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Cyber Liberty
"(Good to see you finally got caught up! You were hundreds of posts behind when I hit he sack last night!) "

Finally got here but had to jump all kinds of chunks of posts to get here.

<8^[

Maybe some rainy day when I hear the grass, I'll come back to this very instructional thread. I've loved it. FReepers are so smart!

1,753 posted on 07/04/2013 9:07:43 AM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: hummingbird

They had one of Zim’s professors testify from Colorado (Pleasants), and they used a Skype feed. Why not a more secure system, indeed? There are thousands of heads wondering about that very thing today. Skype is “free,” and the Cisco products like “go to meeting” cost, so that might be it, but the state has shown they are cheap, cheap, cheap when it comes to software.

Their voice recognition “experts” tried to use free, off-the-web downloaded software to analyze the screams, but were blown out of the water during the Frye hearings. One of the defense experts’ points was that nobody was available to certify the algorithms.


1,754 posted on 07/04/2013 9:09:43 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: hummingbird
Wonder how the attorneys, both sides, are spending the 4th. Do they need to rest for a day or double down for Friday court?

I hope Don West is out having ice cream with his daughter. I hope they take a picture.

1,755 posted on 07/04/2013 9:11:24 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: hummingbird
FReepers are so smart!

Don't be lookin' at me when you say that....I started that fight up there.

1,756 posted on 07/04/2013 9:19:00 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Fawn
Sounds like some games are going on. Do you really believe Nelson only heard of the trouble deposing Crump today?

I suppose it is possible. To me it sounded like she said she had received no complaint until then, and IANAL but IMHO as the judge she is not likely to make that kind of statement in open court unless it is true.

Do you think she knows they went over her head and that is why she’s got an attitude toward them? Should be an interesting week.

I think she probably prides herself on keeping her court running on time and on budget. I read that she has a background in administrative law and commercial civil litigation. I am not familiar enough with the law to understand why the judge did not grant the defense a continuance on May 28. She made a big deal of stating in open court yesterday that both sides committed to being ready for trial. Yet there were issues with evidence on the prosecution side, and the crump deposition had been repeatedly delayed, sometimes apparently by her. I am certain that she is aware of the importance of the crump deposition to the defense. The defense should have been riding herd over crump and complaining to the judge right away if crump was dragging his feet more. It sounds as if the combination of crump's foot-dragging, the ongoing trial, and the judge might have worn them out out and they might have let their guard down.

OTOH it is hard to imagine the defense not jumping on the opportunity to attempt to set up a deposition of crump immediately on learning that the DCA allowed them to. crump appears to be a master at foot-dragging and they might have been riding herd on him but he might have been slippery enough to evade giving them any reason to go to the judge until yesterday. I can't imagine that they would offer crump a sunday evening time slot, so apparently they offered crump some earlier dates and times and crump responded by rejecting them all and proposing the sunday afternoon time. I would think that after all the foot dragging by crump that the judge really should be letting the defense tell the story in open court and putting more pressure on crump. There is no reason imho for the court to continue to be especially deferential to crump-- July 4 is as good a date as Sunday evening, and better for the defense and therefore for justice in general-- and recognition of this might be the reason that emboldened West to continue to push Nelson after she had already given her judgment about it yesterday-- but for some reason Nelson seems inclined to continue to give crump a pass, at least in public. Perhaps during private conference yesterday she changed her mind and ordered crump to be deposed on Thursday. It is difficult to tell from a distance.

It would be interesting to get a trial lawyer perspective on this... I just watch Perry Mason, LA Law, and the Good Wife , lol...

1,757 posted on 07/04/2013 9:30:10 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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It certainly hid every bit of his face in all 3 views in the store.

Hey Bastard!

Put your hands up, and slowly pull that hood down.

Now get out of my store.

1,758 posted on 07/04/2013 11:01:19 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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Deedee (Rachel Geantel) makes Trayvon Martin’s Dad Cry!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP5uAuJs9PM


1,759 posted on 07/04/2013 11:43:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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A brief history of where we are and how we got here with pictures:

http://www.saveamericafoundation.com/2013/07/01/understanding-the-trayvon-martin-family-and-political-connections-two-stories-here-foreword-by-fred-brownbill/


1,760 posted on 07/04/2013 12:12:05 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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