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California bill would fine big firms whose workers get Medi-Cal [$6,000 fine per employee]
Los Angeles Times ^ | May 31, 2013 | Chad Terhune

Posted on 07/02/2013 8:55:35 PM PDT by grundle

Legislators, backed by unions, consumer groups and doctors, are calling for fines that could reach about $6,000 per full-time employee who ends up on Medi-Cal, the state Medicaid program for the poor and others. They say this would eliminate a loophole in the Affordable Care Act that encourages large retailers and restaurant chains to dump hourly workers onto the government dole because there's currently no penalty for doing so.

With the idea gaining momentum, retailers and business groups are pushing back. They say California's move would set a dangerous precedent and result in fewer jobs at a time when many people are still struggling to find work.

"It's one of the worst job-killer bills I've seen in my 20 years in Sacramento, and that says a lot," said Bill Dombrowski, chief executive of the California Retailers Assn. "The unions are fixated on Wal-Mart, but that's not the issue here. It's a monster project to implement the Affordable Care Act, and having this thrown on top is not helpful."

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Whatever you tax, you get less of - and that includes jobs.
1 posted on 07/02/2013 8:55:35 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

I hear tell there are jobs opening up in Texas...


2 posted on 07/02/2013 8:58:06 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: grundle

How about just dumping the idiotic job killer, ObamaCare?


3 posted on 07/02/2013 8:58:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: grundle

And the answer is! Fire any employee who applies for Medi-Cal. Communist ‘RAT politicians are brilliant.


4 posted on 07/02/2013 9:04:20 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Former member of the GOP useful idiot voter base.)
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To: grundle

California should impose a millionare confiscatory “exit tax” for those who want to flee the state. This way those who escape can be purged of their left wing stupidity.


5 posted on 07/02/2013 9:04:49 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: grundle

Wal Mart TELLS its employees to apply for Medi-Cal.


6 posted on 07/02/2013 9:23:44 PM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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To: grundle
Someday long after all the good jobs are gone from California the Lib's are going finally have to realize that the job makers of this country can't just print money like Washington.

It's no wonder all the big manufacturers go overseas or move to Montana, Utah, Texas.

I can't wait to see where MagPull goes from Communist run Colorado too.

7 posted on 07/02/2013 9:54:52 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.")
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To: grundle

Walmart will replace humans with robots. I kid you not. They’ll go to an “automat” format where you stand at a kiosk and “shop”, when your order has been picked and placed in a cart (by machine), you pay and leave with your goods. There will be no jobs for the rabble at Walmart.


8 posted on 07/03/2013 1:19:06 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Jim Robinson
How about just dumping the idiotic job killer, ObamaCare?

Better yet, dump the idiotic job killer, Obama.

9 posted on 07/03/2013 1:23:48 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: grundle

LMBO!!!
Thiis legislation will force companies to cut hours for most of their employees until they are “part time” employees.
Problem solved.

On another note, why would anybody still want to run a business in that sick pisspot, Kalifornia?


10 posted on 07/03/2013 1:26:29 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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"Thiis legislation will force companies to cut hours for most of their employees until they are “part time” employees."

You're right and it's all one piece of the puzzle. People working part time won't be able to afford a car and if a two income couple has a car they won't be able to afford gasoline and insurance. The solution will be to move out of the burbs and into the new high density housing that will be a wonderful new solution coming from the fascist democrat party before long. Probably before the 2014 elections so they can promise the recent college grads working part time at Walmart that there will be affordable places for them to live. Oh, and plenty of public transportation for those who don't want to walk or ride their bicycle.

Just think of how wonderful it will be, most Americans can learn to have the whole family ride on something like the old Honda 50. It should be no problem at all for them to make most US cities look like Saigon in the sixties, knee deep in little motorcycles. Papa drives, Momma sits in his lap breast feeding the infant. One kid on the handle bars and one on the back facing backwards keeping grandma who is behind them from falling off while grand Ma holds another child.

We'll have a superior quality of life, though, because it'll just be two adults and the one kid since the government will go the route of China and only allow one child per family.

11 posted on 07/03/2013 1:59:31 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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We'll have a superior quality of life, though, because it'll just be two adults and the one kid since the government will go the route of China and only allow one child per family.

I know you intended this tongue in cheek, but I could almost get behind a one child policy for anyone receiving welfare. It makes no sense to provide incentive for procreation and promiscuous behavior if we are paying the tab. It's not just about the food stamps and SNAP to feed the child, it's about the medical bills, housing, public education, etc that they are going to require. There are some households around here that have three generations of leeches living there - and they are content doing so. The current generation is having children younger and younger which just promotes the cycle. It's disgusting!

12 posted on 07/03/2013 3:27:13 AM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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To: grundle

After reducing the hours of as many employees as possible, they’ll pay the fine for the rest.

$6K is still cheaper than providing health insurance, esp. at the rate the premiums are skyrocketing.


13 posted on 07/03/2013 5:21:04 AM PDT by randita
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To: informavoracious
Wal Mart TELLS its employees to apply for Medi-Cal.

Which is the same thing every other large employer of low waged employees have been planning to do for the last year or so. To get them on Medicaid in their states.

It is in the company's financial interest to do so because of O-care. You either provide major med coverage for $8/hour people, or pay $2K tax on them. OR you cut their hours and tell them to get their coverage off the state. The law of unintended consequences, CA just added major fuel to that incentive.

14 posted on 07/03/2013 5:41:04 AM PDT by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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Let me further clarify, CA just added major fuel to the incentive of not hiring these folks at all because of the proposed regulations. Since the employers are forced to encourage state assistance to these worker’s because of O-Care, CA is trying another way to get the money back, but all it will do is provide a major incentive NOT to hire.


15 posted on 07/03/2013 5:45:46 AM PDT by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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