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To: OneWingedShark
Again, if you freely offer up information about yourself to a third person (your phone company) and they freely offer up that information to the government, there really isn't much of a "due process" issue.

Also, the FISA court is one which grants warrants - it is not a court in which people are accused or charged or indicted or convicted of crimes.

Warrants are always obtained secretly - it is kind of the point of a warrant.

82 posted on 07/01/2013 9:37:26 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake; OneWingedShark

>> “Warrants are always obtained secretly - it is kind of the point of a warrant” <<

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The constitution offers no such thing as the secrecy of a warrant. Court proceedings are all assumed to be open to public scrutiny, and any secrecy must be publicly requested in open court by requesting a meeting in chambers.


93 posted on 07/01/2013 9:42:15 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: wideawake
Also, the FISA court is one which grants warrants - it is not a court in which people are accused or charged or indicted or convicted of crimes.

Warrants are always obtained secretly - it is kind of the point of a warrant.

These aren't just warrants, these are general warrants -- Writs of Assistance, in all but name -- and what do they base these warrant issuance on? Why on that you might be, not are, and then go fishing for the proof.

178 posted on 07/01/2013 12:51:46 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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