The official Libertarian Party is officially pro-abortion, pro-open borders, pro-the entire homo agenda, pro-legal all drugs, pro-legal prostituion, and pro-no holds barred porn even in public places.
If anyone is against the LP offical real platform and still calls themselves a libertarian, why do they use the same owrd? I’ve debated (with many libertarians on FR sort of - the duplicity on the side of libertarians is such that no real debate can be had as they obscure their real positions, Absolutely Nobama can attest to that too) and they are social leftists/anarchists.
The LP is the ultra fringe anarchy kook branch of the left. I still cannot grasp why people call themselves libertarian if they don’t agree with the LP on those issues.
And if they do agree, they are a big part of the problem. Reagan’s statement has nothing to do with the discussion unless you detail exactly what the LP position was at that time. I seriously doubt Reagan would want to make common cause with the LP as it stands today.
I am not a moron, and the lP party is libirtinism. Another point of duplicity about libertarians is when asked “Okay, I understand your not wanting the fedgov involved in moral issues - they’re outside of the Constitutional duties for the fedgov - fine and dandy with me - but what about states making such laws?”
They mostly get off the thread at that point without answering, but the few times they do answer, they admit they don’t want states to make such laws either.
Your accusations against me are irrational and duplicitous. The FOunders did not want the fedgov involved in most of what it is doing, and I totally agree with their vision. But libertarians don’t want states to have any power either! When the states were colonies and for 150 yeras after, every state had, for instance, stringent laws against sodomy. No one saw anything unconstitutional about it.
Now the LP is 100% onboard with the entire homo-agenda. THey’re happy about it.
“The official Libertarian Party is officially pro-abortion, pro-open borders, pro-the entire homo agenda, pro-legal all drugs, pro-legal prostituion, and pro-no holds barred porn even in public places.”
Funny thing is, some of us can admit that the Libertarian Party (big L) is full of crap. And still consider ourselves to be quite libertarian ourselves.
I used to say I was a conservative with libertarian leanings. More and more I think I am a libertarian with conservative leanings. And yet I still think the Libertarian Party is weirdo central. They co-opted the name libertarian, the way I see it.
You mention abortion: I find abortion at odds with the idea of liberty. One can not be truly free if one is killed before they are born, now can they?
This very libertarian leaning person has no problem reconciling that abortion is wrong and should be illegal, with the cause of liberty and freedom.
I also object to the attempts by many conservatives to legislate behavior strictly on moral grounds. I prefer to mind my own business and just want the Government to do the same.
People who OBSESS over others moral failings are usually projecting something - such as their own moral failings.
The libertarians are simply liberals who don’t want to pay taxes.