LOL, this is insane, we are having a political fight to allow, or to continue to forbid gay marriage and polygamy, and your argument is against the fight to preserve marriage, and for the gay marriage side.
Yet you want to pretend that you are doing it for some higher, religious reason. Gay marriage to save marriage.
You have a side, and it is the side fighting against conservatism and marriage.
No, my argument — if you had the respect to actually listen — is that this should not be a political/legal fight at all.
Yet you want to pretend that you are doing it for some higher, religious reason. Gay marriage to save marriage.
No, I haven't put any pretense up: I flatly stated that I don't believe this should be a matter of the State, in general*, much less the Federal government.
* I do admit that the 9th and 10th Amendments allow the States to make this a legal issue, though I do not believe that would be a wise course of action at this point; moreover, such definition should be illegitimate on the federal front (and should be instead the people's via jury): there's a reason that the 7th Amendment exists.
You have a side, and it is the side fighting against conservatism and marriage.
I didn't say I wasn't taking a side; but you very much mistakenly confuse my refusal to join your side (which is legalism, which even Jesus observed can be abused**) as being against marriage.
** Matt 15:1-9
Then Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and said, “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat.”
He answered them, “And why do you break the commandment of God for the sake of your tradition? For God commanded, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.’ But you say, ‘If anyone tells his father or his mother, “What you would have gained from me is given to God,” he need not honor his father.’ So for the sake of your tradition you have made void the word of God. You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said:
“‘This people honors me with their lips,
but their heart is far from me;
in vain do they worship me,
teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’”