Posted on 06/25/2013 9:54:04 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
PapaNew is either a libertarian or regular liberal. I have seen his comments over time. Anyone supporting the homosexual agenda is an enemy of the Constitution and all our rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights, and against natural law.
I am so disgusted and angered today.
CA actually has such a law. We need one at the federal level.
Amazing how some pass for so long with the mindset they have....I’m quite surprised I must say.
P.S. Am so glad we have freepers as yourself here Ansell...you take it to the root and then expose it.
As disappointing as the decision is, this aspect of it makes sense. The choice was that everybody in a state could have standing or that standing is narrow. They choose standing is narrow and overall it makes sense.
The second outcome is a limit on democracy and a victory for representative government. As BT said, “elections have consequences”.
I think this will be litigated again in state court and the outcome may be very different. That’s why the SSM lobby is working overtime in government schools and the media to groom the public.
A couple and a family, and an estate, have to be able to take their marriage with them as they move from state to state, and join the military, and work for the feds, and travel to, and live in foreign nations, and as foreigners immigrate to the United States.
Since they are saying fag marriage is a state issue, then the next step is for states to say (a,b,c and d) are also state issues and the fedgov can go jump off the cliff.
They want states’ rights? Let’s give them STATES RIGHTS!
It's NOT fixed by going to the lunk-headed federal government who will take away EVERY freedom you thought you had in a heartbeat.
sky pixie? I regret defending you. What happened to your support of free will. Don’t Christians have the right to worship their God?
That was not the choice. The choice presented to them is that the sponsors of the proposition have legal standing and they decided they don’t.
This happened in California before. The state officials refuse to support the will of the people as expressed at the ballot box.
We passed prop187 to restrict benefits for illegal aliens.
Gay Davis refused to defend it in court. That is the biggest contribution to the mess we have been in in Cal even before OB, the hero of benghazi came along.
Another issue. We have the right to an honest election do we not? If the answer is yes, then any citizen with a claim and evidence should have standing to proclaim that right has been violated or to put it more directly, the qualifications were not met by a candidate and that means the election was not legal.
Now they have to get a divorce when they split up. That should be fun to watch.
When the voters of a state have their will overturned by their state supreme court, there is no freedom.
Replace SSM with abortion and then see what you think. We are actually watching a victory for state's rights and the undoing of Roe.
The Supreme Court strikes down DOMA on the basis that it interferes with the state’s ability to define marriage. So my question is, can we take back abortion based on this reasoning? I think it is worth considering.
Before WWI [IIRC] they didn't.
One can argue these things all they want but it is pissing in the wind. Marriage status affects taxes and thus it IS a fed and state issue whether we like it or not.
That's a load.
A perfectly good taxation system could work completely independent of marriage: flat-tax rate, no exemptions, no withholding, no credit, no write-offs.
Or a national sales-tax (this is a bad idea though; imagine what would happen if it were a progressive system, tied to you personally... perhaps enforced/managed by a chip in the right hand or forehead).
What’s maddening is that CA has a law that says the people who are responsible for a ballot initiative, such as Prop 8, may defend it in court when the State refuses to do so. The people had standing in CA to defend it but not in federal court.
“The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right, which Heaven itself has ordained.”
— George Washington, 1789
Amen!
Thanks Eternal V.
Correct and in politics only winning counts. Staying home, voting third party, etc. is simply acquiescing to the will of the majority of voters.
Again, my fight isn't against marriage.
You say that my arguments are fantasy or sci-fi world
, yet all you've done is assert that I am wrong, that I am fighting against marriage. Prove it.
Thwarting the ‘will of the people’ is a good thing and the purpose of the US Constitution.
Keep in mind that our current federal government doesn’t in anyway reflect the Constitutional mandate.
The problem with people like you is you is as long as the judicial activism or unconstitutional decision go your way, you're all for it. That sword cuts both ways and eventually will cut out every freedom and liberty you thought you had.
You fight for what you support, in this case you fight in the world of voting and politics to persuade people to support gay marriage in America.
Why not join us, rather than them?
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