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To: SteveH
I would be in the camp that favors there be no trial of Z to begin with.

I agree with you on that.

Since there is a Z trial, I would argue that something is missing from society-- a model to tell us what is acceptable behavior when carrying concealed during an incident.

And here I disagree.

We HAVE such a model.

It's a very simple model. It's the model that says: "If someone has you on the ground and is pummeling you with his fists, breaking your nose and smashing your head against the concrete, threatening your very life, you are well within your rights to pull a firearm and thoroughly perforate his sorry @$$."

That model EXISTS. And it is understood by almost everyone.

It did NOT stop the prosecution of George Zimmerman, because there were political concerns that outweighed it.

Those same political concerns would also have outweighed any OTHER, more complicated model that you could possibly propose.

92 posted on 06/25/2013 8:48:59 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston

Sorry - failed to italicize the second quote, starting with “Since...”


93 posted on 06/25/2013 8:49:55 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston
That model EXISTS. And it is understood by almost everyone. It did NOT stop the prosecution of George Zimmerman, because there were political concerns that outweighed it.

Well, the model you say exists obviously is not sufficient to support SYG in practice, would you not agree? That is, it is insufficient if people like Z who use SYG can still be prosecuted in spite of common sense.

Those same political concerns would also have outweighed any OTHER, more complicated model that you could possibly propose.

Whether or not Z is found guilty, one of the larger issues is a chilling effect that the mere prosecution of Z implies that many people will be more reluctant to count on society's law to support their well being when using SYG. Ultimately this results in more disrespect for the law. I would welcome what you regard as a more complicated model over anarchy or the loss of innocent life due the the chilling effect that the prosecution of Z currently has among law abiding, CW carrying citizens.

Saying stuff over and over again like Z is innocent on FR is like preaching to the converted. OK, ...but so what? This is an open discussion and IMHO we can and should be open to larger implications and discuss larger issues raised. Think small, stay small.

95 posted on 06/26/2013 12:10:05 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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