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To: Kaslin
Here’s an idea: How about if we wait for abuse to occur before we lament it?

By then it will probably too late, if history is any indication.

our intelligence services operate in another landscape. They are not so easily tainted.

They don't have to be. All it takes is planting some political hacks in the NSA. And then, according to DiFi:

“To search the database, you have to have reasonable, articulable cause to believe that that individual is connected to a terrorist group,” Feinstein told reporters. “Then you can query the numbers..."

So there are utterly no checks and balances such as warrants or court orders to accessing the metadata. Such a system is designed to be abused.

32 posted on 06/14/2013 6:26:16 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

I think the significant item with Snowden is that similar to Mannnig he was not a NSA or CIA employee. Manning was in the army and had access. Snowden was with a “contractor” and had access.

So we have great loyal citizens working hard to protect our nation in the various agencies. The only problem is that the tools they have been given are so powerful and large that the breaching of safegaurds is possible by contractorsm low level adjacent figures and political hacks with too much authority.

The government must be kept very limited in power for just these reasons. It isn’t the agency employees, patriotic, dedicated and trained that get us, its their consultants, wiremen and janitors.

If the tool you have to kill lawn weeds is a flame thrower you can expect some problems — the tool is too powerful.


88 posted on 06/23/2013 11:29:12 AM PDT by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.)
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