I’ll decline your implicit invitation to join the name-calling.
Make your case: explain, if you can, how the defense of the nation is enhanced by spying on her citizens.
It looks like your strongest argument is, “The Bill of Rights appended to the US Constitution isn’t a suicide pact.”
The equally strong counterpoint, however, is the truism, “ ... when the people fear government, you have tyranny.”
You’re right about libertarians and conservatives, but not just them: The DUmpsters too. Dogs and cats and squirrels, all unhappy.
Good job defending yourself, but we’re about the same age, so... Lighten up a little. Two thousand years ago a dead Greek warned about old codgers being too dogmatic.
Just sayin’: There’s a reason this is called Free Republic. We don’t like being tread upon. Peace love dove.