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To: conservonator

We are all disposed to sin. That is our depravity. To say that someone is “afflicted” with homosexuality is like telling all of us we are “afflicted” with telling “white” lies. We can and will do the worst of sins as Peter tells us.

We cannot cure our depravity-only Christ can. But cure it God will with His help and grace. We are not to excuse sin and we are to call it what it is-our depraved nature. And God wants us to rely upon Him to eradicate as much of this as possible.

It is absolutely astounding to me how many Christians want to admit they have a depraved nature-even when they live with the evidence every day. I suspect it’s because we like to excuse it rather than confront it.


35 posted on 06/13/2013 2:34:12 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD

>> We are not to excuse sin and we are to call it what it is-our depraved nature. <<

No Catholic is arguing that gay sex should be excused. But can’t you understand that a homosexual inclination is a temptation, whereas homosexual sex is an action? If someone doesn’t act on a temptation, it is not a sin.


37 posted on 06/13/2013 6:11:20 AM PDT by dangus (Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
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To: HarleyD
It is absolutely astounding to me how many Christians want to admit they have a depraved nature-even when they live with the evidence every day. I suspect it’s because we like to excuse it rather than confront it.

No one is excusing sin. You are simply creating straw men in order to attack the Church. You are have a disposition which gives rise to entertaining then moves to action. you are committing the sin of calumny;repent. Is a kleptomaniac guilty of the sin of stealing if the resist temptation? We don't excuse the action because of a disposition, as long as they have the capacity to reason, to know right from wrong. It may work that way in secular courts, but not in the court of the Just Judge.

41 posted on 06/13/2013 9:09:10 PM PDT by conservonator (God between us and the devil!)
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