[Buckeye McFrog]

Is Bolton implying MOST Americans are willing to surrender their 4th amendment rights to grab a handfull of demented Muslims?????

I used to fall into that category. Changed my mind recently. The fact that we could not catch the Tsarnev Brothers but we know what the AP reporters ordered for lunch every day has taught me that what we're doing is not effective, and not worth the cost to liberty.

[Eagle of Liberty]

The fact that we could not catch the Tsarnev Brothers

To me, it isn't that perhaps these programs were not picking up info that could be useful in stopping people such as the Tsarnev Brothers. It is the fact that we were being warned about these brothers and IGNORED those warnings. Meanwhile, the American populace's digital data is being stored en masse for future use. IOW, the programs are not being used for their supposed intent.