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To: dirtboy

Google and Yahoo do not carry the power of the state to audit, harass and prosecute.


Agree. However, they are bound by law to provide the data they collect about me and you to the government if asked. It can be a blanket NSA order (with the permission of congress to be legal) or a subpoena or court order.

Result is the same - the government does not collect the data, but they can and do access it.

The biggest question to me is not what NSA has been doing - it is who approved it on the oversight committee. Few folks seem to understand this. Congress has the legal authority to provide oversight and approve such programs - not the President.

If congressmen were angry about this it would tell me the executive branch overstepped it’s bounds. If congress were upset at the leaker it tells me they knew about this and condoned it.


107 posted on 06/10/2013 8:13:22 AM PDT by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: volunbeer
However, they are bound by law to provide the data they collect about me and you to the government if asked. It can be a blanket NSA order (with the permission of congress to be legal) or a subpoena or court order.

A blanket NSA order violates the 4th Amendment. The other situations entail due process and I do not have a problem with such.

118 posted on 06/10/2013 8:18:36 AM PDT by dirtboy
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