Posted on 06/09/2013 2:04:20 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
He didn’t finish high school but he went to work for the govenment when he was 18, was thrown out of the Army (he says he broke both legs)? I don’t believe for a minute that he isn’t a left wing nut case who wanted to defect to China with information on the US!
If I had known they were spying on Americans I would have done what he has done.
Violates 4th Amendment. Can it be a crime to expose this?
You are right there. We must not forget that. Even in the NSA, IRS, EPA, FCC, etc there are rogues.
Ellsberg: I would have put the docs out myself.
Civilian courage like that seen on a battlefield.
“Ive waited 40 years for this.”
“They (CIA) may try to capture him, but they follow rules just like he didn’t.”
I’m glad to know the CIA doesn’t kill anyone and they always follow the rules, whatever they are.
“Recipe for tyranny”
He also donated $500 to the nutcase, Ron Paul.
SNOWDEN, EDWARD
COLUMBIA,MD 21045 DELL 3/18/2012 $250 Paul, Ron
SNOWDEN, EDWARD
WAIPAHU,HI 96797 SENIOR ADVISOR 5/6/2012 $250 Paul, Ron
Wonder which way you think the FBI should go when it comes to picking up US citizens on the say so of the Russian intelligence service.
Woooaauuuuooooahahaha ~ mysterious music in the background on this one.
Regarding the 4th amendment, it has some pretty precise language in it. For example:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Some searches and seizures ARE REASONABLE and no warrant is required!
A REASONABLE SEARCH would be of places outside the jurisdiction of the USA ~ or within the jurisdiction of the USA regarding folks who the courts have determined ARE NOT MEANT AS PART OF 'The People' ~ which can include tourists, illegal aliens, people on other kinds of visas, escaped prisoners, foreign enemy soldiers, even domestic but enemy soldiers ~ and if an individual is walking down the street and sees something neither he nor the cops need to get a warrant to see it. That's an ancient legal doctrine.
"personal privacy" is not a right mentioned in the Constitution ~ unless you want to kill babies.
He just made himself an enemy of all the left. Wow.
Absolutely cut the legs from beneath the Libs. Ellsberg is a god to them, since he helped get Nixon. He has absolute credibility on this issue.
No way they can get over this.
Blanket wiretapping and spying on tens of millions of hard working, law abiding, taxpaying American citizens is only “reasonable” - to tyrants.
So many lies, so much time, for even more lies..
If it’s an accepted fact in Washington D.C....
It is a LIE...
Usually the opposite of accepted facts are the truth there..
unless the whole scenario is a lie.. then it’s a lie about a lie..
To even BE a democrat is a delusion, to be a republican is a mask for a democrat..
Washington D.C. is a Masquerade Ball..
Republicans love the coniver Myth Romney.
Democrats love the coniver Barry HAlf-White..
Has anyone started a defense fund for him? This guy deserves a medal but will probably get arrested, IF he does, I`d like to help him out.
Now, LAZ, what about the Chicom meta data surveillance program? Why have you never complained about it ~ and here's one of our guys over there in China spilling his guts ~ presumably to the extent his new masters will allow him to do.
Fur Shur Germany has a similar operation, as does Russia, and possibly even Mexico!
Advances in technology allow this sort of thing to expand into recovery of meta data from more and more and more places.
I used to have to manage an automated PBX system for the office ~ that meant entering the UNIX operating system semi regularly and patching up errors ~ and that's where I first discovered the power inherent in knowing what numbers contacted what numbers and where!!!!
Every automated PBX in the nation keeps years worth of this stuff. Sort it correctly and it'll spill the beans on the folks at work using the company's telco system to carry on lengthy conversations with their mothers in the resthome!
NSA is running a system that accesses everything in the world ~ they also record some textual matter, pictures and voice ~ but even now with dramatically increased data storage capacity there are some realistic limits to asking questions of these data bases. I never got beyond so and so and regular numbers for however long ~ but the big pay off came when the mob tapped our PBX and charged their calls to Bulgaria to my IDN for about 10 minutes ~ the charge was many tens of thousands of bucks. BTW, that's another reason I had to go into the system to review the meta data ~ to see if we'd been hacked.
Getting arrested would probably be a blessing for this man. I sure as heck don't want to find myself on the same airliner as this guy... there's no telling how far our government will go to silence him.
In 10 years (or less!) our healthcare system will look UP to the results and mortality rates in the NHS.
Britain will have superior healthcare.
Sad.
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