Posted on 06/05/2013 8:30:28 PM PDT by South40
The National Security Agency appears to be collecting the telephone records of tens of millions of American customers of Verizon, one of the nation’s largest phone companies, under a top-secret court order issued in April.
The order appears to require a Verizon subsidiary to provide the NSA with daily information on all telephone calls by its customers within the United States and from foreign locations into the United States.
The order, which was signed by a judge from the secret court that oversees domestic surveillance, was first reported on the Web site of the Guardian newspaper. The Web site reproduced a copy of the order, which two former U.S. officials told The Washington Post appears to be authentic.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
This Verizon customer, who goes online through their DSL service, is beginning to understand why his internet keeps getting interrupted with results on tracing producing messages such as earlier tonight which reported an unplugged ethernet line, which turned out to be in error - and why he has had to log back on to Free Republic several times recently without having logged off......
That is no excuse to flout the Fourth Amendment. The PATRIOT Act does not supersede the Constitution. This isn't about posturing; it is about UNALIENABLE AND PREEXISTING RIGHTS. Those rights have been systematically violated. There were other and more effective ways to deal with terrorists on American soil.
I think 0 is simply expanding the scope of the Patriot Act to use it as a tool of control and oppression. If GWB hadn’t done it, 0 would have installed it just the same probably with even more intrusive measures. The Patriot Act was only enacted as a direct of the worst terrorist act to ever occur on U.S. soil. The Left seems to forget or ignore that.
here we go with the Bush trashing....can you just put blame where it belongs?...on the democrat machine and the pimp in the blight house?
Little hint for ya : Verizon IS the government.
Run a trace route to freerepublic.com and see what unusual hops if any.
Gotta. Learn to proofread. :-)
Maybe so. I can't pull up the article. Does it say whether Bush had access to this data when he was up for reelection in 04? There's something WRONG about a president having this kind of information on challengers from within his own party or opponents of the other party. Not that it isn't wrong for many other reasons, but it's especially troubling to think about Obama having this kind of data on any of the republican primary candidates who used this phone carrier for personal or campaign purposes.
I pity any person who has to listen in on my phone calls—he will be bored out of his skull.............
It’s all done by computers. They pick up key words.
With certain friends, I end my calls with FUBO and they repeat it.
I apologize for using FUBO in my post to you.
I agree that it is no excuse. Obama has less excuse though. He said the wars are over. I might also add that Bush didn’t act alone on that. Most of both houses passed the patriot act.
No, it says the process started in 2006, nor do I believe Bush was using the information for political purposes as the Democrats are doing. IIRC, this was about tracking terrorists using disposable phones.
...but it's especially troubling to think about Obama having this kind of data on any of the republican primary candidates who used this phone carrier for personal or campaign purposes.
There is no limit to his intents. It's scary.
Agreed.
As a Verizon customer, I must be on Double Secret Probation.
I put it on both of them, but Bush demanded these powers from Congress, so the emphasis is where it belongs.
Bush was a RINO enabler, just like Nixon was in his pushing the spate of environmental laws from NEPA to the ESA. So if you don't like TSA, DHS, or the NSA Data Center, you have a Republican to thank. Zero may be an evil monster by comparison in terms of how he abuses these powers, but Bush's incompetence put Obama there and he did much to establish the unconstitutional powers Zero wields.
...on the democrat machine and the pimp in the blight house?
The "Democrat machine" did not establish said TSA, DHS, or NSA Utah Data Center; Bush did with Republican help. Deal with it.
You’re back in the USSR.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/06/confirmed-nsa-spying-millions-americans
http://www.aclu.org/national-security-technology-and-liberty/massive-nsa-phone-data-mining-operation-revealed
I don't know about EFF (I suspect they're mostly libertarian), but the ACLU is full of lefties. I'll enjoy their pain at the antics of their Won.
I don’t care what or how bad the terrorist act was, no excuse. Those of us opposed to it not just for Bush would do, but others are hereby vindicated. Let me be thw first to quote countless Freepers... “if you aren’t doing anything wrong,why do you care?.
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