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Sebelius: I can’t suspend the lung-transplant rules for a dying 10-year-old
Hotair ^ | 06/04/2013 | AllahPundit

Posted on 06/04/2013 6:35:23 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Portrait of a bureaucratic nightmare: A little girl’s dying from cystic fibrosis and has three to five weeks to live unless she gets a lung transplant before then. The good news is that adult lungs can be modified for a child her age in a way that’ll save her life — except that, because she’s only 10, she’s not eligible for them. The “adult” list starts at 12; everyone younger than that goes to the children’s list, where lungs are much harder to come by. The question is, does Sebelius have the authority to suspend those age limitations and make the girl, Sarah Murnaghan, eligible for an adult transplant?

I honestly don’t know the answer. Murnaghan’s parents say Sebelius’s authority is clear; Sebelius herself claims that HHS’s lawyers have told her she can’t do it. A life hangs in the balance. On one side:

[U]nder existing policy all adults in the region with her blood type will be offered the lungs first, her parents say, even those more stable and with less severe conditions. The girl’s parents called for a change in the policy after their appeal was denied…

United Network for Organ Sharing, also a nonprofit under contract with the government, said a committee would review the policy and the public would have a chance to comment on any proposed changes. But spokeswoman Anne Paschke said any changes most likely won’t come quickly enough to benefit Sarah or others like her.

“The policy development process is not fast,” she said in an email to The Associated Press. “Organ allocation policies are created to transplant as many people as possible overall, result in the fewest waiting list deaths overall and result in the best possible survival overall. In developing policies, committees and the board weigh data, medical evidence and experience, and public input.”

On the other:

Dr. Stuart Sweet from St. Louis Children’s Hospital, who helped write the pediatric transplant system, said the case ‘tugs at his heart’ but that no system is perfect.

He said that if he changed the system for Sarah’s advantage, ‘there’s another patient, very likely an adolescent, who gets a disadvantage‘.

That’s the key question, right? If you waive the rules and bump her up the adult list, does someone else die because they’re forced to keep waiting? And the other question is, why is someone on the children’s list if a modified adult lung would save them? I don’t understand offhand using a fixed age cutoff instead of a qualitative assessment of each patient to maximize their odds of a transplant. If an adult organ would work for her and there are more adult organs to be had, that’s the list she should be on. Sebelius herself seems sufficiently troubled by this to have ordered a review of transplant protocols.

I’m flagging this for you now just because, with the attention paid to it by GOP congressmen in today’s hearing (Tom Price pressed Sebelius on it too) and with Drudge picking it up this afternoon, there’s a chance it’s going to be blow up in the media in the next few days. Now you’re caught up on the background. And no matter what happens, Ace is right that having the head of HHS telling Congress “someone lives and someone dies” is poisonous optics with the public already sour on ObamaCare. Good luck with your 2014 strategy, Democrats.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathpanel; kathleensebelius; lungtransplant; oldnews; pennsylvania; sarahmurnaghan; sebelius
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To: chris37

It is not the government that says no, it is the Organ Procurement and Transplantation Network. They set the policy on ages. Her doctors want to go ahead if an adult lung becomes available. However, the procedure comes with more risk than if implanted into an adult because the lung must be shaved down in size.


81 posted on 06/04/2013 8:48:51 PM PDT by oincobx
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To: oincobx
"So what do you say to the children of the adult that might otherwise have been the recipient and may perhaps live another 50 years with a transplant."

Nothing. Might doesn't matter. She is about to die now. May doesn't matter either, because they also may not. It seems to me the person closest to death's door is the person who needs it most.

"What basis are you using to determine that the minutes for this family more valuable than other families?"

I am using the basis that she has few minutes left if nothing is done.

If there are other patients as close to death as she is, then they would need to be considered too, but I think telling her family that she doesn't qualify because she is too young is nonsense.

82 posted on 06/04/2013 8:49:11 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: oincobx

How did it become federal regulation though? To me the government being involved is a huge problem.

It should only be doctors involved. Government has no business here.


83 posted on 06/04/2013 8:50:59 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Errant

It sounds almost like Sebelius is saying “well, if I am compassionate here, then the whole country will be begging me to be compassionate and that will Never Ever Do!”


84 posted on 06/04/2013 8:55:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Just another heartless government drone proclaiming a death sentence using "the rules". Nothing to see here...

What is the difference between these bureaucratic robots and executioners?

85 posted on 06/04/2013 8:56:32 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
“then the whole country will be begging me to be compassionate and that will Never Ever Do”

Can we as a nation afford compassion whether by a Democrat or a Republican public official any more?

I think we cannot..

86 posted on 06/04/2013 8:58:35 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It’s what happens when you have the “wrong” person in charge of something like this - if you follow my drift. Job description should require someone able to make a decision without having to consult the damn manual.


87 posted on 06/04/2013 8:58:49 PM PDT by Errant
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To: montanajoe

Well her arbitrariness (I don’t think it is being asked that a lung an adult actually CAN use will be given to the child) is bothersome even while wondering how she got put in the spot. She’s in it, now if there’s a lung the child can use that an adult can’t, do the right thing already lady.


88 posted on 06/04/2013 9:00:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: montanajoe

We’re so GD broke, an operation for one little 12 yo girl isn’t going to make one iota bit of difference. You find a lung, we’ll get the money. I’m ready to contribute! Bet thousands of others are as well!!


89 posted on 06/04/2013 9:03:12 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Bratch

If the rule (albeit a sucky rule that should be broken when some kid’s life is on the line) was in place in 2005, doesn’t that pre-date the “death panels” thing?


90 posted on 06/04/2013 9:04:16 PM PDT by frickin_frackin
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To: chris37
>>>How did it become federal regulation though? To me the government being involved is a huge problem.

Transplant policy in the US is made and administered by the Organ Procurement and Transplantation Network working with the United Network for Organ Sharing under contract with HHS. OPTN has expert committees that draft proposals and submit them for public comment. What folks are calling for here is for the Secretary to overrule the OPTN decisions and procedures.
91 posted on 06/04/2013 9:04:40 PM PDT by oincobx
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To: nascarnation
The spawn of idiot former Ohio gov. Gilligan.

She is proof that Gilligan slept with Ginger. B-) /sarc>

For those who are in Rio Linda or lefties, note "Gilligan's Island" reference.

BTW, there is no escape from "HHS Gilligan's Island." B-P
92 posted on 06/04/2013 9:05:19 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (It is about time we re-enact Normandy, at the shores of the Potomac.)
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To: montanajoe

Govt is responsible for limiting health care resources. There’s no good reason why this child is being denied the chance to survive.


93 posted on 06/04/2013 9:06:05 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Someone call Michael Bloomberg to tell him that a few chump change millions from him will save this girl

You probably aren't serious, but to my personal knowledge Bloomberg does sometimes pay for expensive medical care for people who can't afford it. Might be worth a shot.

94 posted on 06/04/2013 9:06:23 PM PDT by TChad
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To: butterdezillion

Hey, Butterdezillion. Betcha’ she could get a Hawaiian birth certificate stating that she’s the right age!


95 posted on 06/04/2013 9:06:46 PM PDT by kiltie65
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To: HiTech RedNeck
We are dealing with limited resources here..limited organs limited funds. No matter who makes the decision there will always be those who will say the decision is arbitrary. I don’t think the problem really is with the decision maker but with the inability of so many in this country to grasp the simple fact that the country as a whole cannot possibly afford to make everybody well...
96 posted on 06/04/2013 9:07:56 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: frickin_frackin
"...was in place in 2005, doesn’t that pre-date the “death panels” thing?"

Back then, children could not handle an adult lung in their body...now they can with new technology. But the "rules" can't be broken for just one ten year old..so says her executioner.

97 posted on 06/04/2013 9:09:17 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
>>Well her arbitrariness (I don’t think it is being asked that a lung an adult actually CAN use will be given to the child)

But that is part of the issue. She could take a lung an adult actually CAN use. And the success rate of such surgeries with children is lower because the lung has to be shaved to fit into the child.

I don't have any idea on these numbers, but suppose the success rate is say 80% for an adult receiving an adult lung, but drops to say 40% for a child receiving an adult lung. Do you consider that at all in the equation of who gets this scarce resource?
98 posted on 06/04/2013 9:09:50 PM PDT by oincobx
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To: montanajoe

Well look at the scenario I am speaking of: lung appears, matches are done, it will match the child, it will not match any adult needing it. So in your book the proper and right thing is: throw it away. In the larger picture the docs and legislators and whatever should fix this partition between the adults and children where a cross-adaptation is feasible. But there is such a thing as standing so firm on “principle” that you become an ass.


99 posted on 06/04/2013 9:10:11 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: Gene Eric

“There’s no good reason why this child is being denied the chance to survive”

Fraid there is its called economics..look it up


100 posted on 06/04/2013 9:10:42 PM PDT by montanajoe
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